I replaced fuel pump and car still wont start
Asked by Chrispy1183 Jan 09, 2016 at 04:14 PM about the 1997 Dodge Caravan
Question type: Maintenance & Repair
Pump is running but fuel not making it to
fuel rail checked at purge valve no fuel to
slight trickle
17 Answers
If the pump is running and not pushing it to the fuel rail either their is a restriction such as a plugged filter or it isn't picking up fuel from the tank.
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
Could I have done something wrong when installing to cause it to not pick up fuel from tank?
In tank fuel pumps have a sock style filter on their bottom that if not there a new pump can burn out quickly. If it is a replacement pump and not the whole assembly like the factory unit the hose from the pump to the housing can come off under pressure and spray all the fuel back into the tank. Lastly, but not to assume things since its easier to pull a tank without fuel in it does it have enough gas to reach the bottom of the fuel pump?
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
It should it's reading over an 8th of a tank and it is whole assembly with screen unless I bent the float an gauge isn't reading correctly
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
So I'll add more gas and see if that does it and get a new fuel filter I didn't see the fuel filter do you know where it's located?
unfortunately its part of the fuel lines on top of the tank. Also one of these lines could kink or pinch when the tank was re-installed, not likely but is possible.
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
So I have to let the tank down again to replace fuel filter
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
Well thank you for your help I was going to try to hot wire the relay so the pump would stay on and hold the purge valve open until I removed all air and had solid stream of fuel but that may have been a really bad idea not to mention I'm not sure how to do that I've seen it done to drain tank at line before filter someone else told me that there might just be air in line and to have someone cycle key while I hold purge valve open but that wasn't working I thought because the pump shuts off after not receiving signal from crank but you don't agree? If you do how would I hotwire pump on
Cycling the key a few times is enough to purge all air from the lines. Only Diesels and dome of the new direct injection gas engines are sensitive to a little air. Going off what you've done and stated, You seem to be certain that the only problem is the fuel delivery. What led you to replace the pump and have you checked the other things that are needed air and fire?
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
When the pump first went I checked all that and when I knew it wasn't getting fuel I checked if the pump was kicking on and it wasn't so I wacked the tank and it kicked on an ran for a while then it would only stay on if I kept wacking it
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
Finally it quit all together I expected this to happen because my wife constantly ran it on E therefore causing it to run hot I mean she ran out of gas on a regular basis and it had no other issues and the pump kicks on everytime now so I was sure the pump was the problem
Chrispy1183 answered 8 years ago
I'm not sure if did something wrong on the installation like you said kinked a line or broke something I did it on the ground and didn't take the tank all the way out just lowered it enough to access the pump it was tight and the float hooked on the outside of the tank so I'm a little worried I bent it so it may not give an accurate reading and there wasn't a spot where the O ring sat snug so I just made sure it stayed inplace as best I could while I secured the pump
I had or have the exact same problem on my 1994 Grand Caravan. No start, cranks. Used to buck and burp and backfire. Sat for a year through the winter. Found bad rusty gas tank causing water to get into the system. Replaced tank and seemed to work ok for a while. then died a few times and trhen quit altogether. Replaced fuel filter and still would not start. Used a post here that a guy used starting fluid in the air plenum and viola! Started and ran for quite a while until I was sure the fluid was all used up. Been starting and running fine last full week now, cold or hot restarts!. This car was sitting for a year and has old gas in it as well. I dumped in some "dry gas" to freshen the fuel a little bit. The 3.8 liter engine has quite the moxie for power and acceleration. Good luck guys. Definitely try starting fluid to get the engine to start and possible assist in vacuum and electrical shortcomings. Keep posting as you all helped me a lot. Remember, if it runs worse in the rain, check the tank top for rusty holes and water getting in!!!!!
It ran before I change the fuel pump and filter and know it still won't start even after cycling a key 10 times
I can't believe It I checked the fuses And they are good I even bought a new pump and put that back in there and still Does not start I can't believe it,,
Honestjohn85 answered 3 years ago
Starting fluid starting fluid starting fluid!! This is what I had to do when installing a new pump and at least four of these vehicles. Now every time I work on either one of these the 3.0 to 3.3 or 3.8 from 90 all the way to 2010 I prime the system by opening the purge valve and using starting fluid in small increments through the breather box of my intake about 3 to 4 sprays in the vehicle start to run and begin to run on its own. I would definitely try the starting fluid before dropping this tank and doing the job all over again especially if you’ve gone through it in your head as many times as I have before and showing the work that you’ve done is correct try the starting fluid.