I'm looking for advice about dealing with the CCFA program
Asked by GuruDTNKSM Jul 05, 2024 at 09:09 AM about the Tesla Model 3
Question type: Shopping & Pricing
I have been awarded a 10k grant from the
Clean Cars For All program after I agreed
to retire my 2005 Toyota Avalon. I have to
purchase the car from one of their
approved dealerships. Used Teslas in
Particular cannot be purchased from
Tesla only one of the CCFA approved
dealerships. I've been doing my own
research but it looks like you have found
many more possible cars than I have. I
found a few at Fremont Chevrolet)o
think) .I just thought perhaps you would
have some advice or even more specific
deals to point out to me.
9 Answers
Stay away from used Teslas. If your looking for battery power then look at Honda.
Used electric vehicles are not a good bet, yet. The big battery has a limited lifespan and will usually cost more to replace than the vehicle is worth. As time goes by and the technology gets better that will change. But for right now, personally, I'd pass on the grant and keep driving the Toyota. Unless it's falling apart. I also wouldn't be surprised if the used electric vehicles you're looking at were dumped by their previous owners last Winter. Many died in the frigid temperatures, wouldn't charge, and had to be towed by diesel and gasoline powered tow trucks! Pretty ironic! Do your homework and think twice about this! Jim
GuruDTNKSM answered 4 months ago
I'm pretty well committed to I using the 10k grant .I was going to stack it with the 7.5k tax benefit which is taken off the price at the dealers. I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, I'm just trying to give you a sense of my thinking and I am open and grateful for any suggestions or corrections to my thinking. Leasing versus buying, I feel that if I have 17.5k towards a new ev purchase or almost the same for a used ev 10k from ccfa , 3.75k tax taken at point of sale, and either 1k or 4k given by PGE after purchase all add up to buying rather than leasing. I test drove aBoltEuv and did not like the way it handled at all. It felt like it wasn't held down to the road and was ready to skid. I know it wasn't going to drive like my Avalon which is stuck to the road like mad but the bolt made me feel an impending sense of loss of control, that might be a little dramatic but I think you know what I mean. I have great credit 800+ but don't really want a 500 dollar car payment every month that I would have if I bought a new ionic 5 or 6 after putting down the 17k. So I thought getting a relatively new used car would work. I saw y this HYUNDAI 2022 HYUNDAI IONIQ 5 SE VIN: KM8KM4AEXNU065271 STOCK: FH3336AX For 28.6k And if I wasn't in the middle of moving I would have done the research and know what the payments would be on it. There are some Kona ev for decent prices but I'm not familiar with then. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance I really appreciate it
Check the “Do not buy used” lists. The vehicles you are looking at are on that list. Also watch for recalls.
GuruDTNKSM answered 4 months ago
This should take you to the vehicle page I was looking at. Any thoughts. Again I thank you for taking the time to help me. https://www.fremonthyundai.com/invento ry/used-2022-hyundai-ioniq-5-se-rwd-4d- sport-utility-km8km4aexnu065271/
That's a nice looking vehicle and it looks like it comes with a warranty. Putting the EV part of the equation aside, Hyundai is not a very reliable vehicle to begin with. If you can get an extended warranty and just plan on using the vehicle around town, like going to the grocery store, church, taking the kids to and from school, etc. it might work for you. But you won't still be driving it in 19 years, like your Toyota. Plan on only getting, at the most, 5 or 6 years out of it with repairs, some costly, along the way. The day will come when electric vehicles will replace gasoline powered vehicles. Just like how the automobile replaced the horse and carriage. But the technology is not there yet! This program, in my opinion, is just another example of the government trying to ram EVs down our throats. EVs, especially used ones, are not selling. Partly, I believe, because they're too expensive, not reliable enough, and lack the necessary support on the road to make them a better choice than gasoline powered vehicles. There's a gas station on every corner, if you're on a trip and break down you can be towed just about anywhere, local to where you are, get fixed, and be on your way. Charging stations are not always readily available and if you break down in your Tesla good luck having the local garage being able to fix it to get you back on the road again! Like I said, this will change, but we're not there yet. Jim
GuruDTNKSM answered 4 months ago
Thanks for your help it is appreciated and makes me wonder if I would be better off leasing. My Avalon needs a new catalytic converter and when I found out I could get 10k for it and with the tax rebate I thought it was a no brainier for me to take advantage of those programs and I see so many Tesla and other evs on the road I thought the technology had caught up and it was a good idea to get one. You have given me much to think about and I think leasing might be better. Thanks again. Jeff