To buy or not to Buy Porsche Cayenne
Hello,
Looking for some hard fact answers! Should I buy a used Porsche Cayenne? I love the
way look and drive, but am I just going to be wasting my cash. I can't afford new but wiling
to spend 18 grand. I have never owned a Porsche before. Any feedback on what year to
look at and how many miles are too much.
93 Answers
Well, 2013 was the best year according to Consumers Reports, published in their latest 2015 Annual Auto Issue. I advise you to pick one up. In as much as the price of these cars range from $61k to 113k, I would definitely think that $18,000 is a great price if you can find one in good condition. Used cars are all about condition and how the car was maintained when the first person purchased the car. If the initial break in period was neglected or it was just abused, you're in for a rough ride and buying someone else's problems. Aside from lease returns, you've got to ask them and yourself why is someone turning around this car. Had you considered a Subaru Outback, you would get better mileage and probably find one more easily since it's not in such a high price range. By the way, the report says that the controls are confusing and the least desirable feature of the Cayenne. I don't personally know what they're talking about but it's worth checking out if you're serious about purchasing the car. If it's that confusing, then others may find it so when you go to sell the car later. That would not be good.
All I can give for advice is you better be one good mechanic! Every time that thing goes to the shop, you will be paying top dollar for parts and service. That's why only people with money drive those things. Can you afford a $1200 dollar bill on top of all your other bills? That could be how much it will cost you for the first break down. Have you ever noticed that new, they go for 60K and up, but when people go to sell them, they practically give them away compared to what they paid? Just tires alone will run you $1200 plus. When they begin to be a money pit, people get rid of them.
Great feedback guys thank you. I do notice that they sell for very high new and once on the used lot they do drop in price! You may be correct that only people with money to burn should buy this car:(
I agree with the last post despite the fact that Consumers Reports liked the 2013 year. I know it will cost more money to maintain and keep than the Subaru Outback I suggested as an alternative. Plus, you're not going to find one for $18,000 unless it's a salvage vehicle. I just discovered that even the lowest priced model in 2013 with 80,000 miles in fair condition has a Kelley Blue Book price of $34,000! Before I spent that kind of money, I'd go out and get a brand new fully equipped Outback with all the bells and whistles. By the way, Asian cars generally age better than European cars. You should seriously check them out. I don't know what you're trying to achieve, but, it's better to feel good than look good. You could have two brand new Outbacks for the price of one Cayenne. Do you really need that Porsche nameplate that bad? Years ago, I knew someone with a MBZ Roadster. It was a fancy car, but, every time he took it to the dealership, they would charge exorbitant prices for everything. He finally dumped the car. If you don't believe that Asian cars are better than German cars, look at the general profile of cars across the board and contrast that to cars from Japan. You'll see I'm right.
Steven, you're welcome, that's what this forum is all about, sharing information. Hey, go out and test drive an Outback. You're going to be very impressed with this car. I have the Four which does not feel at all like any domestic Four cylinder you're used to, but, if you want a rocket, try the Six. Just depends on what your budget and fuel economy needs are.
what is your thought on a touareg
Steven, I had two VW's both of them purchased new 1970 and 1978 that blew up costing me a lot of money. I had a 1995 Honda Accord for 19 years, also purchased new and sold it last year excellent condition with all service records for $3,000. I take care of my cars like an airplane. If something fails, I fix it, immediately. Don't want to be stranded, ever. I've never owned a Tiguan, but, a friend of mine has and tells me that older models are riddled with electrical problems. By the way, electrical problems on cars are the most difficult to solve. And, the 2009-2011 models are on Consumers Reports models to avoid list. Is any car perfect, hell no! There's even some Subaru Outback on the avoid list like the Outbacks from 2005 to 2008. I guess it's partly luck and your capacity for dealing with problems and all cars have them. All I can tell you is my experience with my Asian cars has been much better than domestic and European cars. Before my 95 Honda I had an 80 Honda Accord and it was also a great car. From my friend's perspective, the Touareg is just a cheap version of the Cayenne. And, in Consumers they liked the Cayenne better for 12-14 with 13 being the best year. Again, you're not going to find a late model in the 18K price range. I did see on Car Gurus some Cayenne's go for that price for a 2004 or earlier model. Stay away, it's a money pit. Now, how about test driving the Outback ? Or look at the Toyota Venza? These are pretty nice cars. Generally, if you look at all of the German brands or even look at Volvo, you're going to be paying more. By the way, the Subaru's feature the "boxer engines"... these are more unique than other cars What's your current car?
Mercedes C class. It has been great. In the 7 years that I have owned the car. Only 1 major fix. That's it..
OK, I've heard they're better than the GL, M and S class cars. So, you're looking for a more utility vehicle now? Are you familiar with the "Boxer" engines, flat 4 and flat 6 engines?
What was that major fix?
Steven, are you ready to consider an Asian car? Read this link, http://jalopnik.com/5966299/40-years-of-not-getting-stuck-a-subaru- awd-history/
Yes..:) Thanks for giving the hard facts
You're welcome, please mark my last answer as helpful and good luck to you.
Thank you Steven, hope you're shopping for a great deal goes well.
Steven, I found this for you, great information on Subaru. Prepare to be impressed. Whether you purchase new or not, helpful. http://www.subaru-global.com/tec_awd.html
thanks very much. I believe Subaru is coming out with a 7 seater.
Yes, here's the 411 on that replacement. http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/subaru-tribeca-replacement-is-coming-but-buyers-shouldnt-hold-their-breath.html and http://www.torquenews.com/1084/new-subaru-7-seat-suv-may-be-revealed-tokyo-motor-show-2015 The Tribecca didn't sell well for two reasons; 1. the third row was not comfortable for adults, and 2. it made it difficult to carry gear with only 8.3 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row. So, it didn't serve any purpose really well. Hopefully, the replacement will be better. Do you need a vehicle to carry 7 people?
Do not buy a cayenne unless coolant issue has been addressed and cardian shaft has been replaced I had to replace mine and it cost as much as a used honda very expensive to maintain
How the hell did a Subaru Outback become part of this conversation.... Not even close to an apples to apples conversation..
If the price is too low beware as in "if it is too good to be true". Mark's answer to everything is "Subaru".
I have a 2004 Cayenne Turbo and its cost me a house down payment in repairs to get it up to par. Everything stated is true - you will easily get hit with 1K repairs on basic stuff - my Xenon HID headlights cost 700 bucks...each! I love driving the car but it is a b*tch to maintain and there are so many sensors on the car, you will easily be discouraged driving it with a vague check engine light on. You must get a home PC plug in to check the car computer yourself because there are a ton of false flags that go off on older models. The first gens were true off roaders and I have taken it offroad and on the beach, utilizing the air suspension to crank the beast high. Either way, I got mine for 15K and have put AT LEAST that much back into it within my first year - all unexpected costs...
I bought s 2004 Cayenne S in 2009 with 32K miles for $33,000 and sold it April 2015 for $12,500 with 97K miles. I never had a bad time with it. Regular and routine maintenance was done affordably. I know when I sold it the 100K check up would include about $2000 worth of work, not a big deal for a car that I drove for 6 years with no problems. This was my second Porsche, having a 2002 Porsche Targa and driving my families new cayenne's through this year, 2017. Great car.
I have the same questions as OP @Markw1952, perhaps you can help me out. I am looking for a reliable, used SUV for $15-25k, WITH a towing capacity, so the outbacks 3,500 lb cap will not suffice (like @jfkusaf said... apples-oranges) :) .... Do you have any suggestions? The others in it's class (the cayenne's class that is) are the VW Toureg (as OP mentioned) and the Audi Q7, both of which have reliability reputations similar to the Cayenne's at best. Perhaps you can help me out. Looking for a towing capacity of ~5k lbs min. Thanks for all your feedback on this thread
Hi, Hallo! Porsche's and also the Cayenne's are great vehicles to drive. You know this vehicle, especially in the S models and up have that Porsche racing and performance mystique that is hard to find elsewhere beyond European nameplates (the Japanese come close in Subaru). We have the V8 Cayenne S from 2012, about 40K miles. These vehicles are great to own/lease/drive if they are under factory warranty, especially if there is a dealer near you. What's not to like about getting a loner Cayenne or Panamera while your SUV is being fixed? If you want to buy new from Porsche, make sure you buy the PREPAID MAINTENANCE, that will save you thousands. If you want to own past the warranty period, buy the extended warranty when you buy the car, because later it will be killer cost (for us to add 3yrs + 30K miles is $10,900 extended warranty from Porsche, no joke, I had to ask Finance for a quote). Another great choice is to buy Porsche CPO with the added 7yr+100K mile warranty attached. CPO with Porsche is great b/c it includes the warranty for trivial cost. And when something breaks, it is NOT TRIVIAL. Recently our 2012 Cayenne experienced a COOLANT LEAK due to the ENDEMIC PORSCHE COOLANT PIPE ATTACHMENT DESIGN found on all models, including high end 911's and Panamera's from the 2010- 2014 time period. Porsche decided to use LOCTITE adhesive to attach critical cooling tubes within the engine instead of a simple screwed-clamp (No Joke, across all 3 models!). Porsche filed a 25- pg NHTSA response from the factory that shows their weak coolant "water neck" adhesive design. Our Cayenne cooling tube connecting the 2 halves of the engine came loose, and all the coolant escaped the car in less than 30 seconds. Luckily we were on surface streets, and after flat-bedding the SUV 30 miles to the nearest dealer, the cost to repair was $5,500. We are real fortunate that our SoCal Porsche Advisor went to bat for us with PCNA, and that thankfully PCNA covered $4,800 of the cost, out of warranty. The repair requires that the ENGINE BE REMOVED from the car! (like a Ferrari 30K mile service!) Our overall impressions on owning this vehicle: (1) Driveability for S and up models are super impressive (2) Dealer service and loan car program are awesome (3) Buy CPO with 7yr+100K warranty (4) Buy New with Prepaid Maintenance & Extended Warranty (5) Just Lease or Lease CPO (6) Buy from CarMax with Premium Extended Warranty from CarMax (7) Least costly is Lease New or Lease CPO or CarMax (8) ALWAYS have a factory or CarMax warranty for engine failure conditions or you will pay dearly. Best wishes for all you car enthusiasts, and old or new Porschephiles!!
Sounds scary to invest one's hard-earned money on this vehicle, I was just about to buy one, but after reading all this, I have decided to look at other companies, is surprising to hear all this about such a beautiful machine; but like someone else said you better be a good mechanic if you want to buy this car, I would go a step further on his comment and say that if you really have to have this vehicle for whatever reason you may have, you better buy yourself a garage as well, just to make sure you break even between this vehicle’s maintenance costs and your new garage's net income.
Reelin68 - Porsche Cayenne has the highest residual value of any SUV. Look it up. 70% of every Porsche made is still on the road. That's higher than Toyota. You lose $10,000 per year up to $30,000 to $50,000 depending on the style. For example a $160,000 Turbo S will depreciate to $50,000 in 9 years if kept with regular maintenance. a $90,000 Cayenne S (base) will depreciate to $30,000 in 7 years. Catch my drift?
Andrew- Yes, and like I said, only people with money are willing to shell out that kind of dough. $160k for a Turbo S? Who has that kind of money? Certainly not the 95% of the rest of us. And the real reason so many Porches are still on the road is because they are mostly owned by the wealthy, they are maintained by the wealthy, and they are not driven in the road salt. Unless of course you have money to burn and don't care that it's in the salt. Remember, the car payment on that $160K Turbo S is more than most peoples mortgage payment. How many Porches are sold in the U.S. VS Toyotas? You have to stop and remember there are far more Toyotas out there than Porches. Hence, they are a dime a dozen compared to the fewer Porches.
I'm interested in buying a 2010 cayenne GTS. But after reading this is very scary . Love the looks and the racebreed . I currently own a 99BMW M3. Was looking to buy the cayenne as a daily driver.. Good Info..
CayenneGuru answered 7 years ago
Is it expensive to maintain? Yes. Does any other SUV (and many "sporty"sedans, for that matter) drive like it? Hell no! I have a 2008 Cayenne Turbo with 156k and it runs like a beast. I am no mechanic but I can take care of most of the routine maintenance. Examples: (1) oil change at dealer $200+, I do it for less than $90 and Porsche recommends doing this every $20k miles (I do every $15k), (b) breaks at dealer $1200+, I replaced my own rotors and pads for under $700, (c) xenon light ballast at dealer $300+, I bought and replaced mine for $90. Sure there is maintenance I can't do which I will have to pay for but if you are a car aficionado like I am no SUV (and most cars) comes anywhere close to the thrill of driving this beauty.
I'm looking at a 2006 Cayenne with 104k miles 3 previous owners. 4 accidents 2 of which where rear ended ad their asking 14k and like @Cayenneguru said I have someone who can do the oil changes and brakes and everything like that. So does anyone feel with what he said it's work it?? Please give insight
BigV guru I just bought a dead mint 2006 turbo s for 22k with 85000 miles on it. No Accidents. I would hold off and wait for a turbo s for a few dollars more
Dear gents, I am planning to buy Cayenne S 2008 141000 kilometer OD car looks in perfect condition as I checked on the road, could you please advise if this you mean that can still costly to maintain??? Thanks
Johnnyairtime613_ answered 6 years ago
I have been pouring through the costs of maintenance for a Cayenne comparing dealer vs my very reliable and honest mechanic and have found the following. We compared a brake job for a 2009 Subaru Outback done at the local dealer vs the real cost done by my local Audi/Porche mechanic on a base Cayenne and the Base Cayenne was cheaper by about $ 100.00. We looked at timing chains, exhaust part replacements, water pumps and alternators and found the prices to comparable to Subaru. We looked at the simple oil change and assuming your using synthetic oil on a six cylinder boxer engine vs the Cayenne's 3.6 and it the same cost. The point here is yes off course the Porsche Dealer will be insanely expensive and scare anyone off however a good, honest Porche/Audi mechanic that is not working as a dealer has pricing that is absolutely comparable to Subaru or any other Asian made car for that matter. the key is to find the right mechanic and most major cities has one. My previous car was an Audi a4 Avant Sport 3.0 6 spd. manual. the time came to do the timing belt and I priced it out with the dealer out of curiosity. This was in 2013 and at that time the dealer wanted $ 2,600.00 while my mechanic charged me $ 1,200.00 for the same job and that included changing the water pump at the same time as with this engine you might as well do it as you are right in there when doing the timing belt. the moral of the story is I would not be afraid of the Cayenne assuming you know where it came from, it is throughly checked out before buying and you have a mechanic that truly knows what is going on and is pricing in an honest way that affords you to see prices that are the same as any Subaru or other asian built car.
I bought a new 2011 Cayenne S back in October of 2010. As of today, the vehicle only has 25,000 miles on it. While the vehicle was under warranty, there were some issues that came up that were fairly minor, mainly electrical. However, once out of warranty, the big ticket issues started. First was the entire headliner sagged which required a whole new headliner installed for over $4000. Next, the transfer case went bad. Repair price, $4500. Then the rear window washer started to leak and shorted out the rear hatch electrical module, price $2100. Then the cooling tube attachment came loose, as stated in an earlier post it was glued on as opposed to bolted on, luckily the mechanic found out about it before it broke off, and replaced it, cost $2200. I love the car but not sure how many more of these surprises I can take. I own it so my theory is that as long as I dont have any more issues, it makes more sense to spend some money as opposed to shelling out $84000 for a new one. Fingers are crossed!
After my BMW m5 was crushed by a tree in a recent storm, I was in the market (with my wife's approval) for a decent 06,07,08 cayenne. but my research indicated that they frequently have many owners 4 & 6 not unusual. rarely 1 or 2, after reading these posts, I see why. I love the mystique of Porsches, have owned many 911's, true they cost to fix when broken, but there is nothing like them. do I even have to comment on the Subaru?
i have negotiated and about to roll the credit for a white exterior and red interior turbo S 2013 Porsche cayenne .I came into this forum to check more pros and cons on the same .My heart has been at it than ever .What I'm reading here does not sound encouraging but rather scary. Are you guys for real or out to kill Porsche Cayenne? I'm confused!
Nashville2018 answered 6 years ago
Dear Gents, I am planning to buy a 2012 Cayenne S Hybrid. In fact I am a Mercedes person, but I do like the upgrade to Porsche. Should I do that step ?
ANCIENTSPAVOYAGE answered 6 years ago
I AM LOOKING TO BUY A 2006 PORSCHE CAYENNE WITH ONLY 42,000 MILES ...IS IT A SMART MOVE ...BTW IM NOT RICH..ITS A VERY GOOD PRICE..
Good afternoon Gentlemen, I am looking to buy a 05' Cayenne with 150k miles. just for SnG its not a daily commuter and it looks like a good deal. I'm reading a lot of mixed reviews on this. I'm no mechanic but i do have someone who can work on these for a reasonable cost. (my 12 C class has been under his care since i bought with no issues) Anything i should watch out for?
2014CayenneDSL answered 6 years ago
Look...you want a Porsche then you'll need to be able to cover the expenses that comes with it. After all, it's a performance SUV like nothing else on the market. It has the feedback and handling similar to that of a 911 (I said similar ;-) ). I suggest take one out for a spin and see how it feels. That's where you'll know whether the car is right for you or not! Hope that helps
NickNack76 answered 6 years ago
I have never seen so many people whine and cry like I have on this forum. I own a 2009 and 11 Porsche Cayenne S. 101K and 52K They are 2 of the greatest cars I have ever owned as far as quality nothing even comes close. It kills me to hear someone talk about buying a Subaru over a Porsche I mean really what are you even doing here talking about Subaru. 1st of all it doesn't take a rocket Scientist to do minor repairs on these cars cardin shaft etc etc. I think the thing that scares people the most is Germans use big words basically a cardin shaft is nothing but a drive shaft which A Carrier bearing. Which if you do it yourself $450 max with a new heavy duty shaft. I know that most people aren't mechanically inclined but a 3rd grader could fix this. Common sense goes a long way with these cars don't pay somebody a million dollars to fix them dont be a idot do your homework, learn about the problem and do-it-yourself. These cars were made for one reason and that was to run if you want to buy something from Subaru or Honda great because when I pass you In one of the most advanced cars ever made and look ridiculously good while doing it you will know what's between my legs is stones and the worlds greatest hard on. I'm sorry driving a Subaru would be like having gummy bears for nuts and trying to attempt being aroused. Leave the Porsche to real men And go talk about a Subaru somewhere else.
would not shy away from cayenne just because there can be some repairs along the way. Like the man says you can find a good non-dealer mech that can fix them at realistic prices, and yes I did replace the BMWX5 with an impressive one owner, low milage, white turbo Camon it's great ,I love it, not a 911 but blindfolded, like I said, impressive and really holds 4 adults and a dog.
dang, I was looking at Range Rover Evoques last week (2016s) and this week wanting a Cayenne V8 instead (2008 to 2013). mainly because the drive from the Newport Beach dealer, thru Laguna Beach to my place revealed 100,000 Range Rovers lol and I was over them. ack to the Cayenne, have not driven one yet, will this week, and will probably drive that baller home with me. life is short, gotta get something fast and they look better than any other suv. wish me luck!
NickNack76 I’m not a guy but if I was your comparison would be spot on! Seriously you don’t buy a Cayenne for cheap maintenance! You buy it to own the damn road! My Benz got t-boned so I’m taking the plunge and going Cayenne! I just got goosebumps! Life is short so live it in the fast lane!
Interesting discussion. I am starting my search and I am trying to get a good idea of the Cayenne's reliability and cost of ownership. I've owned a number of nice cars, but never a Porsche. The suggestion of a Subaru earlier in this thread is odd since Cayenne buyers are highly unlikely to be cross-shopping Subaru. Nothing against them - this is simply an apple-and-oranges comparison. People buy Porsches for the passion of driving them and the engineering that goes into them. From what I am reading, it sounds like common sense prevails: buy a well-documented/maintained vehicle that, ideally, has a warranty. Don't buy one if you're not ready to pay to maintain it. If the purchase price is already at your financial limit, and maintenance puts you in the red, then better to move on. I've always believed you get what you pay for. So a cheap Cayenne is cheap for a reason. Spend a bit more for one that's been maintained properly and has a known history. Unless you're a mechanic (I am not), then have a plan in place when you buy on how you're going to get work done when you need it. I hope this thread continues as I've enjoyed reading all of the comments.
Anyone know about the 2008 gts? There's one I'm looking at for $16599 with 86kmiles. Only 3 owners. No accidents reported...
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
Kevin they are a great car don't be afraid to buy a Porsche if it's the one that you want take it they are very reliable cars and don't listen to the bullshit that people tell you.
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
I own 2 of these ask me whatever you wish but please God don't compare them to a Subaru what a joke
NickNack, can you tell me the models/years that you own? I am looking at a couple of 2012 to 2014 models. I've owned other high-end cars in the past and fully understand there is a cost associated with them that is more than the aforementioned Subaru. (Not sure why that comparison was started in the first place...) What sorts of maintenance issues have you encountered? What has been your ongoing maintenance situation looked like (just standard oil changes, etc.)? Have you had any unexpected breakdowns? Would be interested in hearing what you've experienced. Thanks, Keith
killerkicks answered 5 years ago
I guess I have to change my plan in buying a cayenne, I saw one 2009 with 71,000 mile one owner they"re selling it for $17,000.00 i might have to on buy a volvo suv.
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
They are both S Models. The 2009 I am the 3rd owner. I have had to change the cardin shaft was Quoted a $1100 repair on it when actually I did it myself for $350. I've had to put new tires on it and new brakes I could say less than a 1000 bucks It has a 112000 miles on it and Is my daily driver. The reason why I cannot give you the specifics on the brake price was I know it was less than a 1000 maybe a little over 500. The tires are 285 80R 19s And there's a million different company tires that make that size. On it now are Hankooks about $800 The 2012 I am the 2nd owner of it it has 41000 miles on it and it stays in the garage I never drive it often, my wife enjoys it more than I do to be honest. I have never had to do anything to this car other than oil changes. Also another secret to what I do is I have a great group of guys called German Cars of Sarasota they are in Sarasota Florida I let them always Check my cars because they specifically deal with German cars great group of guys honest and very good hearted people. They always do a system check an oil change every time I bring one in for about $350 it's worth it because they go over the the cars with a fine-tooth-comb. Like I said these cars are known for reliability I don't give a shit what people say or what kind of bad luck they have had they are great cars. You know to be honest I think most people that have problems with these cars more than likely it's because of them acting like animals or they did something stupid in them. I have had both of my cars between the two almost 7 years and they have been fantastic. I have never bought a Porsche brand new but one day I will.
Galileo777 answered 5 years ago
Which Porsche Cayenne Should You Buy? Complete 955, 957 & 958 Buyer's Guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLWPhKrq5EE Very helpful Cayenne buying guild from youtuber Car Fanatic, lists all the pros and cons of each model years. Buying any used Porsche vehicle is researching and choosing the most reliable model years, lower the miles/owners the better, and good maintenance history which usually indicates previous owners that cared for the vehicle mechanically/cosmetically and could afford the maintenance. Most new Porsche's are leased for 3 years, then they are sold to dealers, you want to see the previous new owners own it for at least 3 or more years, I year owner's IMO just want to take it as a status symbol joy ride, beats it up, can't afford the maintenance/loan payments, then dumps it. Exercise caution when purchasing Cayenne turbo's with too many owners or owner that likes to race. I never did like cars that been in accidents, high mileage, heavy snow states, and more then 2 previous owners, and always take the vehicle to dealership PPI before purchase. Routine and major maintenance take it to shops that know how to repair your vehicle, not jack of all trades shops trying to save some bucks which would be a major mistake.
Galileo777 answered 5 years ago
Those model years has issues with transfer case that are very expense to repair. "NickNack, can you tell me the models/years that you own? I am looking at a couple of 2012 to 2014 models."
Galileo777 answered 5 years ago
That would be in my sweet spot, how's the vehicle history? CarFax reports sell on eBay for a great price. "Anyone know about the 2008 gts? There's one I'm looking at for $16599 with 86kmiles. Only 3 owners. No accidents reported..."
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
Yes I know about The transfer cases German cars of Sarasota told me that it is a $3500 repair. They also told me though alot of the problem with this is people put oversize tires on their cars They take the factory 19's off and put on 22's or they run too aggressive of a tire. It is best to stick with the factory settings there's a reason why. Now I know it's a problem for other owners but with both of my cars I've not had this issue at all. On my silver Porsche the transfer case repair is not that expensive but on my black one it is. I will say this again you don't buy these cars without there being some repairs I don't care what kind of car you get today eventually you're gonna have to do work to it. If you had to replace the transfer case on a Subaru or a Jeep guess what it would be around the same price there's nothing cheap about this folks when you buy these cars you have to understand that something can go wrong and you're gonna have to spend some money. I choose to put my money in a Porsche because they're fantastic cars
Galileo777 answered 5 years ago
Hey Nick, not trying to bash Porsche cause I’m a fan too. Before the Porsche bug, I only owned Toyota vehicles and served me well with very low cost maintenance and no major breakdowns. Porsche from my research/experience has been the most reliable of any European brands, like most Porsche owners say, performance, handling, and fun to drive. The dealer theory on the transfer case issues does not make sense since the previous models hasn’t experienced the transfer case failure rates as the newer models. On the Porsche’s Good scheduled maintenance and preventative on known issues, cause you don’t want to be caught dead on the road far away from your wallet friendly competent Porsche repair shop.
L8tdropins answered 5 years ago
Hello all, looking at a 2009 Cayenne Base with 79K miles one owner. Any thoughts or gotchas to avoid? Thanks
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
Go for it, one owner sure why not. The 6 cylinder was a hit with the base Cayenne. Very good engine
L8tdropins answered 5 years ago
Thank you NackNack. It is super clean but concerned about the mileage. Are there things I should check to avoid major repair costs if I purchase the car? Thanks again
Galileo777 answered 5 years ago
Looks like a great deal with one owner and low miles. V6 engine has been very reliable just a bit under powered compare to the V8. The coolant pipes has been more of a issue on earlier model years. Check if there has been any accidents, fluid leaks, good mx history, and make sure PPI is done at a Porsche dealership pre-purchase, due diligence and research is the key. "Hello all, looking at a 2009 Cayenne Base with 79K miles one owner. Any thoughts or gotchas to avoid? Thanks"
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
Yes Brakes, Cardin Shaft, and check your electrics every thing else should be good to go. A good mechanic should Be able to do a full diagnostic on it for less than 350
Any good german mechanics in the southwest Florida area anyone can recommend ?
I bought a 1 owner 2006 Cayenne Turbo 4 years ago with 112K miles. Had new cardan shaft and metal coolant pipes, new coils and tires. Replaced fuel pumps and serpentine belt as soon as I bought it. Have done 20K miles since and only repair has been replacing the rear wiper motor. My experience has been excellent. BTW, I paid $17K for it, another $2,500 as soon as I bought it, $190 since. Sorry, add $400 for ceramic brake pads all round which I changed.
IMO, you should NEVER buy a used Porsche without getting a PPI by a qualified Porsche shop. Let’s you know whether or not to buy the car and also is great for price negotiations if there are some issues with the car. If there are, the seller will know has to either fix to sell or knock something off the price. A used Cayenne, whether 6 or 8 cylinder, cannot be compared with most other vehicles and especially not a Subaru, good as they might be. The ride and handling of a Cayenne are superb, the fit and finish excellent and if a V8, the smooth power delivery is exhilarating. All this for not much money for a few year old Cayenne. But get a PPI.
I still love my ‘04 S. I’m surprised everyday what a head turner it still is. Not that I want that, but you notice it. I’m the 2nd owner, bought it in 2013 for $20k, mint condition with only 40,000 mi. I have replaced the drive shaft, the coolant pipes and last week the stereo head unit, so now ot has blue tooth/ Nav. I firmly believe that I have an amazing car for a relatively low price. Drives, handles amazingly, like a beefy 911! Monsterous power. Ridiculously good in the snow. If you have decent cash flow to pay for repairs, without the $50k car loan, anyone still interested should be able to afford the cost of repairs. It would be a bonus to find one with those repairs already done, then you’re set!! Mine is metallic teal with sand beige interior, 4 of the best heated seats on the market. Deliciously comfortable and very classy.
Porsche Cayenne 2018, cracked head, 50k miles. 30 days to get part from Germany and 30 moreto get it fixed, 2 months. For a loaded 100K vehicle. Don't recommend.
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
Sounds like to me like somebody drove the shit out of it. Porsche's motors are usually bulletproof. You have had some serious bad luck or your lying
CayenneGuru answered 5 years ago
Porsche Cayenne Turbo 2008, 179,000 miles and pulls like a mother. Highly recommend. One caveat, they are expensive to maintain.
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
2018 model engine had a crack that nobody recognized while it was given its maintenance done nobody pressurized cylinders or check the head while the engine only has 50000 miles on it I find this very far fetched I just don't see it if this was going to a professional mechanic they woulda caught something wrong and those cylinders or that head. Yes these things are pricey to maintain but they are awesome cars.
Stormbr3ak3r answered 5 years ago
Hi Nick, this guy is selling a 2004 Porsche Cayenne for $8,300, but only has 72, 018 miles. Any advice?
Nicknack I found a 2013 Porsche Cayenne with 77k miles for 20k. Does it seem like a good investment? I currently have a BMW X1 just looking to more space and vroom lol.
NickNack76 answered 5 years ago
Let me answer both questions. Stormbr3ak3r $8300 for a 2004 is a little bit high that was also the 1st generation and they were a little bit problematic if you want to buy ask for $5000 and go from there but make sure everything is running good with that car take it to your local German dealer let him check it out it's cheap about $300 bucks. GuruSKRCP that's a ok price for the 2013 if it's the base model definitely go for it just make sure to check all the Bells and whistles. But you can find a S model for around that same price also with the same amount of miles.
I’m planning to buy Porche cayenne S135k miles 2010 for for $12,988. Or cayenne s 113 k miles for $11,999 2008 please advice I would really appreciate it thanks much!
mrsbay24 and others, I found this forum to be enormously helpful in considering the purchase of your first Cayenne: rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-958-2011-2018/986048-if-you-re-thinking-of-buying-a-958- read-this-first.html As for these older 2008 - 2010 Cayennes, you definitely want to understand the service history and NEVER purchase without a thorough pre-purchase inspection by a KNOWLEDGEABLE Porsche technician who know the product and the nuances of the brand.
For the first generation Cayenne (up to 2010), check this forum: rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-955-957-2003-2010-77/ Also, due to the way this forum formats messages, check the link when you paste it into your browser to remove any spaces that may have been put into the links by the forum software. Reading these forums will give you a TON of useful info about the version of Cayenne you may be considering. I spent hours on them before buying mine and it really helped.
Hi @NickNack76, Thanks for your help on this forum. Your comments really encourage people like me to go for the car which we aspire to have and now that i have a chance to buy one. Need your suggestions if this is a good deal. I am planning to buy a Porsche Cayenne -2009 Sport Utility Vehicle with 118k miles for $9k. This will be my first Porsche car and when i check the car did not see any problems. I will be taking it to a nearby service center for second opinion.
PorscheNewbie answered 5 years ago
Hello, I’ve read this thread since the beginning and have gotten a lot of insight about purchasing my first Porsche. I am considering a 2013 Porsche Cayenne S Hybrid, seems to have been cali driven, so no major road damage. $26,500 (hoping to negotiate to $22/23k) 70,474 miles, two owners (personal lease/lease). I work from home and live in Los Angeles. It would be used as my daily car (driving to the gym ~9 miles each way) what are your thoughts?? Any answer is appreciated! Thanks in advance!
As a owner of 2012 cayenne S for 6 years (I bought it in 2014), I can tell you this. When you are buying a used car with high mileage you are taking a gamble that the previous owner did the proper maintenance. You can check whether that was done at the Porsche dealership by providing a VIN number. They should have the records. Maintenance at the dealership is very expensive. For example, oil change change is around $250, but you have to do it once a year or every 10K miles. Front brakes are $1500. I am fortunate enough to have access to Porsche service manuals and be able to do this myself, but that option is not for everyone. People may be tempted to go to some hole-in-the wall shop that will put cheap after market parts and end up causing long term damage. I have driven almost 90K on the car, the only issue I have had is the broken plastic vent in the back of the central console that likely broke because one of my kids accidentally kicked it with a foot. Everything else was maintenance (brakes/filters/alignment/tires).
Owned two prior Cayenne S’es (each bought new) and one GTS (used) and loved them all. Situations changed and I haven’t had one for the past five years but I long for one. I think if you even just test drive one you may just find you’ll never really be satisfied with, or want, anything else, costly repairs or not...
I was about to buy one and wish I hadn't looked on here and saw more nightmare stories than happy bedtime stories, totally on the fence with this but sensibly glad I read all the posts
if you want an suv that drives better than 90% of cars go for a cayenne, you dont buy them for low maintenance costs, and considering the wonderful feeling you will get every time you drive the car it is worth every penny. Subaru Outback lol, what an utter cuck
I'm about to replace my 2012 Mercedes-Benz GLK350 for a mint condition 2013 Cayenne base 3.6L, with 80,000 km. The vehicle is in unbelievable condition and I'm very tempted. I have 3 more days to make a final decision and I'm torn apart after reading some of the postings. Should I or shouldn't I give up the so reliable Benz for the Cayenne?
I would go for it. I have the same car in awesome condition at 135K and she is running strong. The VR6 engine is rock solid. Find a good Indi mechanic that you can trust and your maintenance becomes reasonable. I recommend ordering transfer case fluid from https://germanparts.ca/parts/porsche/2013/cayenne/3.6l-v6/differential-centre/transfer- case-fluid/ Take one in every time you get an oil change. It will take an extra 15 minutes to drain and fill while the mechanic is draining the oil and changing the filter. This is a great preventative maintenance move as one of the few potential downfalls of this vehicle. Peace of mind if you will. The car drives incredibly and am I sure you will love it.
I read every post from the beginning. A lot of helpful tips and hard facts on Cayenne. I'm considering to buy a 2016/17 and my price range is around $40-45k. My daughter recently totalled 2010 TL. I want a performance vehicle that has a good 0-60 speed. @NickNack, I appreciate all your comments. Any advice on what trim line I should consider for Need for Speed?
Hi Hemant, you should be able to find a very nice 2016-17 in your price range. I have a 2016 V6 Cayenne and I also had a TL (2013) that was totaled, so I know where you’re coming from. I bought my base Cayenne last year for $38K so by now you should be able to find an S or maybe a GTS in your price range if you really have a need for speed. For me, the base V6 has all of the power I need with the added benefit of lower operating cost and maintenance. It easily hits 80 on the freeway without trying, which is enough for me. But I’ve passed the age where I need to go super-fast, and I don’t need any tickets or other related hassles... I did buy an aftermarket warranty (125k miles) for peace of mind. I’m risk-averse so this cost ($4K) made sense to me. Find one with a documented service history and have it checked over by someone who knows these and you should be good to go!
@kwadublin, thanks for your advice. This will be very helpful in searching for the right Cayenne.
Galileo777 answered 4 years ago
Cayenne V6 is Volkswagen sourced engine and V8 is a Porsche engine. Both are reliable engines, the Cayenne S V8 will give the extra giddy-up. The Cayenne power train is a reliable luxury SUV, I would just skip the extended warranty unless its from the dealership CPO, those third party aftermarket extended warranties are pretty sketchy.
Hi there, I have read the whole forum and still on the fence. Never owned a Porsche...but currently have 2009 C300. There is a opportunity to takeover a lease and buyback from a relative of mine and it is 2018 Cayenne V6. The price may come to CA $48+tax and the mileage is 40K. I can get an extended warranty for $4K for 2 years (until 2023). I have been thinking about replacing the C300 with this beauty, but has been nervous about the maintenance cost. I maintain the car with a good indi mechanic. If I can find a good one for Cayenne, do you think the maintenance cost would be comparable to C300? I didn't have much luck with the car as I had to replace ESL module and the broken drive belt. Over the past 9 years I have owned the car, the average annual maintenance (including the repairs) cost $1000/year. Wondering if Cayenne will be more or less the same or much higher, if I am to do with the indi shop. Remember, I am in Toronto area. Appreciate some inputs. Thanks.
CayenneGuru answered 4 years ago
Not it will not be comparable and indi mechanics can’t work on these cars (don’t have the tools or know how, so you’ll have to find a specialized mechanic). Mine has been extremely reliable but when something breaks you will be clenching your cheeks. I have a turbo which adds to the costs of tires and breaks (as they are massive). There is no comparison with a C300 (best car I’ve ever owned and is still head and shoulders above most cars even though it’s a 2008) but you need to be ready to pay for the privilege.
There are lots of qualified indi mechanics that work on Porsches, you just need to ensure that they are genuinely experienced working on them. What little I’ve had to do on mine has been with an indi shop that does a lot of Porsche work and have the required diagnostic tools, etc. So if you check them out first and talk to others locally you can find good shops to do the work. The newer generation of Cayennes are MUCH more reliable than the first generation (pre-2010 I believe). I have a 2016 V6 and it’s awesome. I don’t care about being the fastest - I’ve grown out of that. Plus the V6 is cheaper to maintain and operate. If you can make the numbers work you should be fine. If your relative maintained it by the factory spec and the maintenance is current (that is, they did the 40k service which is more involved interval) then you’re good. The 50k maintenance should just be an oil change and small miscellaneous stuff for a few hundred dollars.
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