why do some people say bmw sucks??

cause they cant afford it they are haters hehe

because they are haters. although i do believe bmw is overrated by many.

who hates bmw?

Have you ever driven a BMW thats less than 10 years old ?

Yep. I've drove a 325 and a 328. Can't remember the exact years but it was around 04-05 I do believe. Hated both. I also drove a 4.0 x5 which I thougt was amazing on the othe hand. I also drove a 2003 7-series which was baller. I just don't think BMW is amazing as a lot of people say. Example: somebody driving a 2004 3-series thinks because it's a BMW it's baller. Well simple fact is they aren't. Cars I drove handled like shit and accelerated like garbage(3-series). I also didn't like the feel of the brakes.

sounds like you have driving Chrysler's not BMW's ! Are you saying that your 300c drives better than a 03 7 series ? And they are better 'cos they are BMW's , They didn't get the reputation for nothing !!!! And you failed to mention that the build quality is 10 times better than anything built in the states !!! and if you think they handle like shit you are probably used to grazing your elbow every time you go around a corner in your 300c !!

You don't read well do you??? I said the 7-series was baller. I said the x5 was awesome. Only cars I said I didn like was the 3 series. And the build quality is not better. This is what I'm talking about. You say it's better Because it's BMW. I find that funny because I've continually gone to the BMW/Porsche dealership here looking for a good car to buy but I continually find water pumps being replaced at 100k miles on their 3 series. If build quality was so good 200k miles should be a piece of cake for a water pump. Their maintenance costs is comparison to American vehicles is also ridiculously high. An oil change is $100 or more for fucks sake. I like some bmws but they aren't nearly as great as many think. Overrated like I said earlier. Oh and do some research on a 300C with sport suspension handling. You will see it's actually very good for a 4300 lb car.

You should know that pricing has to do with import tax and so on, the water pumps you can put down to total lack of servicing due to the afore mentioned cost of owning a BMW ! but I would have thought that the warranty would cover the water pump at 100k ! Also a lot of people stretch their finances just to get a BMW they can't afford to maintain them ! the oil change is $100 because you need quality oil for quality engineering, you get what you pay for ! as for the 3 series, you should go and take the 335i for a drive ! And are you saying you had to modify your 300c to get it to go around a corner !

ive heard lots of good things about the 335. sounds like it would have good performance from what ive read. but that doesnt change what i think of the 2 different 3-series ive drove. and the oil change is ridic because its what bmw charges for it. i get a full synthetic oil change done on my 5.7L hemi everytime and i pay $60-$70. and the 300C i have is stock. the 300C comes with 3 different options for the suspension. standard, touring, and sport i believe are the 3 options. mine is sport. it handles great. the srt8 300C also gets praise for its handling. and btw, the quality engineering you speak of requiring quality oil doesnt make too much sense considering the hemi is one of the best engines in the world. id def rather have a hemi than an engine from bmw. not knocking the bmw motors so dont take it the wrong way. im just saying i believe the hemi is a better engine. like ive stated from the beginning...bmw is a good company and makes some good cars but they are overrated by many. id def rather have a merc than a bmw. but id def rather have a bmw than an audi/vw.

have you even driven any of the m series cars ?

No but I really want to. Although from what I've read I think I'd rather drive a slightly older m3 than a newer one because of the weight.

Hi Chase, you're right the extra cost for an oil change makes no sense, even at a regular local shop it's extra! Although you are wrong about the Hemi engine versus the BMW engine regarding the tech involved in the BMW engine. I love the Hemi and am a huge fan of amercian muscle, even owned two 'stangs but the quality in the materials inside the BMW does not compare to most amercians. The finishing is also not to be compared. The price difference of the vehicles is mostly because of engineering, technology, materials and workmanship...simply more expensive than Dodge. Don't get this wrong but if yo didn't think the Bimmers you tried did not have great handling it may be because you dont quite know what to look for. It's not gona handle like a go-kart. In the 60's-70's BMW started to produce race cars with 50/50 wheight distribution and sweept the competition (american) in most touring classes...that technology was transfered to road cars and the handling history started. Now BMW have amongst the best steering response and handling in the world, and unfortunately for your test drives, those are facts not opinions. Therefore if someone says it is overrated it's because they don't have enough experience in such areas. Your choice of vehicle confirms it. I actually like the 300 but you have to realize it is not in the same class. I ditched my american cars a few years ago and stepped in the total package. I wasn't expecting to beat Hemi's or High output V8's with my 330CI but if on a circuit track, unless racing a Hemi Challenger or a Shelby I woud take the victory. My top speed is as high or higher than Hemi's and the handling of a stock BMW vs stock Dodge, GM, Ford is unmatched. Another reason why it could be overrated is because it is a sports car and people expect it to be as fast as a Ferrari but it's a BMW....speed, great comfort and luxury, supreme technology, supreme styling (opinion), supreme engineering, supreme steering response and supreme handling. This car suits my driving style (open wheel racer) and gives me great confort and luxury. As an everyday car, BMW excels in every area. Not just a great engine on wheels like many americans The only down side is that too mane people view these cars as a status and are even snobish because they have a BMW. The real drivers buy the car not the badge. It IS the ultimate drving machine. Ps, if you know about BMW then you would also know that the 328-325-323-318-316 are actually known and produced to have smaller and slower engines but bring the luxury, comfort, steering response and handling to people who only look for those attributes, not for speed. Have you ever heard anyone at BMW praise the speed of the smaller 3's? NO! That's meant to be.

Ugly shark fin (some people like it; I would never buy a car with it ... it's completely tacky). And the headlights on the new ones are tacky. WTF are they thinking? Anyways, I've been in a 3-series, M3, X5, 530 and 750. Seven series and M3 were nice. Rest were okay, but nothing to brag about.

I am perfectly happy with my 3 series; she is beautiful and drives like a dream (fast and sexy)! BMW328xi . . . BMW is number 1 in my book I am a single mother of two: make just over $68,000/year. I am not rich.

And whenever I race ahead of those BMW driving jackasses I always show my middle finger to them because their overpriced elitist junks on wheels can never be cool as my muscle car.

BMW is for arrogant corporate jackasses who have no knowledge about cars. A good car is the one which makes you smile with its power and engine note. And BMW has neither got power nor a good engine note. Call me a hooligan, a brute or whatever you like, but the fact is fact, all those Mercedes Benz, BMW and Jag owners are nothing more than arrogant elitists who know nothing about cars.

If it is such a great car, why shouldn't it last like any other car? The company says the first 2 years are maintenance free-woo woo! that's 2 oil changes. Why is the computer system so dumb, it has to be told there is a new battery in the car so you can be ripped off by the dealer for a "reset" of the computer so it will not overcharge the battery? Why do they put on aluminum "one time use" bolts? You can bet the racer teams toss them and go to steel bolts. The coil packs do not last, and BMW says replace them all if one goes bad. This car is supposed to be engineered like no other-thank goodness for that.

Ayhhhhhhh come on :/ every body knows bmw sucks:/ bmwc is even worst than honda and mitsubishi :D XD XD Lllooollll

All bmw s have engine bearing issues and bmw Couldnt Solve it From Past Until Right NoW LOoooooOOoOoOL XD XD

And if BMW is so well known for its engineering, then how come after a certain amount of miles the water pump or the thermostat fails. Why because majority of their parts are 80 to 90 percent plastic. Which I think is stupid because why would you make engine parts out of plastic knowing that cars go through harsh winters and very hot summers if plastic is exposed to too much heat or cold plastic will get brittle and break . Now don't get my wrong I have driven a 1998 BMW 528i and I must say they do handle the road very well but the only reason n most people buy bmws is because of the drive and handling that's the only thing keeping them alive. Hell I have a 1998 lexus gs300 and it has well over 300,000 miles and still going strong. O I almost forgot bmws cup holders suck ass

Because they can say anything they want.

Just brought 2011 BMW 328 xi to dealer, bought new, always had it serviced at dealer, 105K miles on it: Tie Rods Frozen, ruined tires that only had 22,000 miles on them. $1,000 to fixThey were checked in Jan, failed in March? Cracked Valve cover, $1,200 to fix, Dealer said all this was normal with cars, I've owned Toyota's, Honda's never had anything like this happen. That's why BMW's SUCK. They are crap.

Lol look at all the broke people who are mad they can’t afford a Beamer. Fact of the matter is my stage two 330xi will beast legit any car short of a Shelby gt

This video says it all. if you want a quality car, why would you consider this!?!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04gTnckMaeo german cars are low quality trash after 10 years or 100k miles, whichever comes first.

BMW IS "BASICALLY WORTHLESS"! THE M STANDS FOR ALL THE MONEY YOU THROW OUT BUYING ONE AND THEN SERVICING ONE!!! Hmm.... this is almost like having a wife!!!

Because after few years most BMW start falling apart. They are expensive to buy, expensive to maintain and on top of ordinary maintenance (that will make you broke) they develop so many problems that are too expensive to fix for the value of the car itself. If you must have a BMW, lease one, never ever buy one. I speak for personal experience.

BMW = Big Money Waste

I have a 2011 328 xi and it's garbage. My water pump has to be replaced at 50000 miles which per bmw is standard maintenance. The radio is not working currently. The blue tooth is not working currently. Last year I had to fix the valve actuator because it snapped in half in the overhead cam. Cam position sensor had to be replaced. Plus I had to have multiple safety recalls fixed. Absolute garbage. No matter how much people post on this site about how much they make.

My 3 series requires much maintenance. It is easy to work on. I find great joy in driving and improving my high milage, 250k machine. I always admire with a look back walking away. Nice driving car.

Obviously your bmw is very old. Newer models are garbage. Nothing works right and they are very difficult to work on. Replacing a part now requires the computer to be reprogammed to recognize the new part. I mean you cant even change the battery! Easy to work on ha! Lmao. Plus parts are extremely expensive. New amp for car is 1100 dollars. A factory amp! You can get a higher quality aftermarket amp for 300 dollars. But bmw knew that and programmed the computer to not recognize different parts.

I leased a 2015 BMW 328d wagon few years ago. I owned Audis and Infinitis before, so I am not new to this class. The BMW is ABSOLUTELY the WORST car I have bought or leased in my life, regret so much ! The car is just a "ultimate driving machine" (they are not lying), but NOTHING MORE ! The ride quality is absolutely garbage ! Feels like no damping at all, extremely bumpy! When it goes over the water draining pit, it sounds like "bang bang" and send me a great shock! Seems like the car is jacked up in the air and bounces back to the ground. Extremely ridiculous ! In addition, everything is so user unfriendly. MP3 player plays the same folder again and again, will not jumo to the second folder automatically. The bluetooth player can only be connected around 30% chance, the other 70% chance just cannot connect at all, no idea what is happening ! The so-called leather steering wheel is harder than hard plastic ! Central door lock will NOT automatically unlock when the driver door is opened from inside (but there is an option for driver door opening from outside in i-Drive, strange ?), and the central door lock button is on the center of the dashboard, not on the door. There is no height adjustment for seat belt (it is a $50k car, not a $15k car !). The knuckle is far too low, scratching the seats by itself (fortunately the repair is covered by warranty). The memory seat buttons are on the edge of the seat, not in the door panel (like most other cars). The air cond left-right independent temperature control is always independent, unlike most cars which have "sync" button. The amber gauges looks like a design from 90s, twenty years behind others. However, the service of the dealer is great ! And it covers all scheduled maintenance for 4 years with no cost. The dealer asked me to lease another BMW again, I said this is my first and last, no more.

You will spend a ridiculous amount of money on maintenance and the car breaks all the time. After 40k miles the value of your BMW is like the value of a Kia. Not my experience with only one BMW but 2 because my gf and I had one. It’s all about the brand nothing else I got myself a Nissan Maxima full loaded and it is by far and I really mean it by far superior durability and it will not make you spend unnecessary amounts of money. Bottom line my car and my gf’s car under 50k miles cost us around $25k to $30k just on repairs and maintenance.

BMWs are for think theyre rich assholes why buy a car so poorly made Ill stick with my PORSCHE

I have been an auto mechanic for 25 years, I've worked on foreign and domestic cars. By far the most problematic car at such a low mileage would be non other than BMW. If you're going to spend an arm & a leg for a car it should be BULLETPROOF!!! Leaks, electrical issues, internal engine faults, suspensions, sensors failures etc. are just some of BMW's many many faults. The best bang for your buck is Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura, they are half the price of a BMW and will outlast them 3 fold.......

Hi- I've driven many BMWs. From 3 series to 8 series and Ms.. I've never owned one for obvious reasons- they are ALL junk. The facts from the HP and skid pad point out that my G37 will smoke any BMW up to a 7 and my GTR will take care of the rest- and my cars will last well into 15 years and 300K miles when the BMW is falling apart after 100K miles. Sure, one can always find that paperclip in the grass bmw that lasted a while. But what they never tell you is the gobs of money they had to spend to keep it up. One of my best friends is a service manager at a large bmw dealership and even he says they are ALL junk- the facts are that bmw has done a great job, over the years, od marketing. Making people believe that the car is great. It is true that when new, and for a while, some of the cars are fast and handle well- the bad build quality can't sustain it and reliability is almost last on the list of most HONEST evaluatos. Publications like Motor Trend, are shills for the car as they print whatever the manufacturer wants. Everytime I see a person driving a bmw I see a big S on their forehead which stands for "Sucker"

1. BMW is the car equivalent of Metallica... both were good in the 90’s, decent in the 2000’s, and now things are falling apart. The best BMW was made years ago. The M3 got progressively heavier from the E30, up to the E92, to where the E92 convertible weighed almost 4,000 pounds, and lost driver involvement over the years it was produced. 2. BMW owners are wanna-be rich boys and posers that don’t know a thing about cars, posting baseball cap pics, vape like crazy, and all drive like idiots with the majority of them being menaces to society. 3. They can't afford a real luxury car so they act like their BMWs one.

Wow never knew that BMW haters could be so Toxic. If you like muscle cars then you like big noise high horse power tire eating monsters. BMW is non of that. But it will destroy a muscle car in a corner. In order to own a BMW you need to maintain it. And the tacky plastic interior that lines all of the new muscle cars is not the most "appealing ". And if you do not care whats under the body work then go buy a standard lexus or Acura they are cheap

Because BMW is way over priced, and way over engineered. I don’t think I know anyone who has owned a BMW of any model that didn’t have serious issues before 100k. BMW = Be Mindful of your Warranty. Anyone who wants to pay 10x the actual cost of car service is an idiot. BMW is overrated. Want a real ballers car and pay a real ballers price? Get a Maserati.

BMW is just an overrated scam. Poor people fall for its looks and "status" looks. Rich people fall for its "power". You will spend more money getting it to run properly then it is worth. I owned a 1994 BMW 530i Touring wagon. they were mildly more reliable then, then they are now. but fuck do dealers and mechanics RIP YOU OFF due to its BMW tailored diagnostic systems. And their designs are, well... BASIC. Every time I see a BMW I don't even give it the time of day to look at one. They are fast up until maybe 80,000 - 100,000 miles. They they are a heaping pile of trash. Do yourself a favor, pull your head out of your ass and buy a Japanese car. but whatever you do, don't buy a Nissan unless you wanna keep buying a new CVT transmission every 100,000 miles.

I've purchased over a dozen brand new cars in the last 15 years for both me and my wife. By far, the worst was a 2019 BMW. Within 3000 miles, the stereo fritzed out... randomly cutting itself on and off, changing channels, etc. Within 6000 miles, the driver's side door came loose. At 8000 miles, oil started spraying everywhere under the hood. (To note, we traded it in before the 10,000 mile first scheduled maintenance!) This was an adult-driven, delicately handled car that was garaged both at home and at work. I've never had a single electrical issue or any problems with motor on ANY of our other vehicles (including the infamous '19 bmw, along with a '19 4runner, '16 tundra, '15 sienna, '13 sti, '12 tacoma, '11 wrx, '08 tacoma, '06 ducati, '06 versa, '04 rx8, '01 miata) We usually put at least 30,000 miles, sometimes over 100,000 miles on each of these cars. Only the BMW had electrical issues. Only the BMW was spraying oil. Only the BMW had a door try to fall off. All in under 10,000 miles. I had no problems paying for a brand BMW, but I have many problems paying for a brand new BMW that keeps breaking down.

I hate BMW since my 2014 X5 required engine replacement after 106,800 miles on it. I purchased it brand new for $70k and maintained it on every service schedule. BMW is only reliable until the warranty last. My car started having engine problem at around 60k miles on it. I even bought my wife brand new 2019 330i couple years ago because I didn't think the BMW makes such a unreliable cars. Never getting another BMW in my life forever.