My truck wont start
Asked by GuruYRRSJ Mar 25, 2018 at 11:06 PM about the 2002 Ford Ranger 2 Dr Edge Standard Cab SB
Question type: Maintenance & Repair
My friend was in a hurry and didnt let my truck heat
up before driving it when it was below 0 degrees
outside, she was trying to get over a pile of ice, so
she was pushing the gas pedal to the floor
multiple times and then it suddenly shut off when it
was still in drive. Since then it hasn't started back
up. It wont overturn and i know its not the battery
or any chains. Please let me know what you think
is wrong ans how or if i should fix it?
35 Answers
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
If its not turning over by starter or crank wrench and it died while at red line rpm's then the engine blew, locked up, threw a rod. It not being warmed up played little, it was the high rpm's that did it.
How much do you think it will cost to fix iy? Do you think it would even be worth it?
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Try spinning it over by hand with crank wrench to confirm locked up motor. If it is locked and still wish to know exactly what happened pull the oil pan off to see if a rod is dislodged from mounting points and wedged between the block and crankshaft or sticking out the block somewhere. If the oil was low before this happened it may have seized and could be freed up maybe if you do it right.
So if it is locked up, how much will that cost do you think?
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
If it is locked up from throwing a rod or spinning a bearing the cheapest if you lucky is to buy a known good running engine to replace it with or a short (bottom only) or long block (includes head) rebuilt or new from a dealership. I would recommend the long block bought if replacing or be sure the top end is good on yours or the used engine is good from a recent wreck that you can hear it run before buying. Call a dealership for new long block prices, places like rockauto.com should have options for re-manufactured i just looked and at this moment only one of there supplies is listing available all others out of stock but that one listed is their hight option at just below $2000 after core exchange but all auto parts stores carry rebuilt motors, and others online but a used one could be had for anywhere from a few hundred to a thousand.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Some years back bought a car and it had started to get water in the oil so I needed a engine fast, I had heard of a man in my community that had bad wreck and I knew his car had a engine that would fit mine so I went by to ask him about it and he was leaving it in the impound lot and not going to get it out or pay the fees too, So I ask him to call and find out what those fees were up to, it was at a yard near the accident site and the lot did not charge a per day fee until after so many days the tow yard wanted $135 to release it and it had only been 2 weeks but first I needed to check it out to see if would still run, this car had rolled over but landed on its wheels, the car cranked up so I paid those fees and he signed over the title to me, so I know if your thrifty you can get a good motor, the one I got still drove and I drove it home, took extra parts off to save that fit mine like drive shaft, radiator, alternator ect and sold the rest of car with my bad motor in it to a scrap yard and made more off scrap metal price then I paid for it so it cost me nothing plus I had extra parts.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
I had a friend help with the swap and we used an old bent a-frame engine puller propped up with 4x4 post to keep it from bending farther, pulled it with trans still connected and used what we had from the two cars, I saved those wheels too btw. Thats a 1978 cutlass and mine a 1981 cutlass that pic and swap was done back in 1995.
Thank you for all your help! Do you know of any good places I should look into?
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
I would look local first then online if need be as shipping will be costly. Look at craigslist. Ask around everybody local you can that is how I found that cutlass, maybe parts stores, at stores like gas stations, they hear alot around town, thats what I did from day I found the water in the oil to the day I got the 1978 cutlass to the day we swapped motors & trans was less than a week. My experience with re-man engines is that if you do not take it apart and put it back together to see if anything was not done or put together with air ratchets then you taking a gamble like trying to win the lotto, If I am not going to buy a new short or long block I would find a good running used one personally. I would hear it run, see no smoke, no leaks ect
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Check the oil to see if its black or milky and pull a valve cover to see if its all gummed up or rustly looking ect, Some junk yards may have a wrecked one but lets be honest if its in a junk yard and the body is fine then either the engine is bad or the trans or both or very high miles. If you can not find a local good used one I would look into having yours rebuilt, may have to send it off and wait a month but a standard rebuild is un-likely as it had to atleast scored up the cylinder walls or broke a rod and hit the crank so it could be a money pit to rebuild but if that is the only option find that one motor in town that spins good but smokes or needs rebuilt but not locked up and use it a rebuild and still have yours as a back up for used parts and keep yours for accessories and sensors ect.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
You need to make sure which motors work for that model and use the same computer and wire harness hook ups or find one the same as yours year/model and same options and/or pull the computer and engine bay wire harness if anything is different.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
If your doing this swap yourself do the things that are easy to do while motor is out like oil/filter changes, new oil pan gaskets, crankshaft/camshaft seals, timing chain cover, valve cover gaskets or timing belt which ever it has, Spark plugs, Degrease it first. Check you motor mounts for cracks and all vacuum hoses and radiator hoses for cracks or bad. Check the flywheel for bad spots. If its a manual go ahead and do new clutch kit with knock bearing and pressure plate, if auto-matic do a fluid and filter change. Also try to spin your motor to make sure its locked up and not stuck in gear with a bad trans or rearend.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Other option is take to a shop and pay out of pocket. If you can turn a wrench yourself why not do it yourself, not alot of work GuruYQC64 as someone either you or the one selling the used engine has to remove it, if your installing it you want all the wiring hook ups and everything taken apart correctly, if a junk yard does it for you beleive me they are cutting off the electrical connectors on the engine side of the harness leaving you with no connectors, they are cutting bolts off, breaking bolts off, cutting the radiator hoses, throwing the engine around on old tires denting the oil pan. when your doing it yourself you can decide which parts you need to come with it, be sure not to damage it, See where vacuum hoses went, ect. It is a much bigger headache to find out the timing chain cover got damaged and is leaking after a install or have to solder all your wiring together or re-thread bolt holes, hunt down vacuum diagrams all for letting a junk yard nut do it for you instead of actually saving your time doing it correctly the first time GuruYQC64.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
I've also seen junk yards damage crank pulleys and crack power steering & alternator brackets that cost more time to remove off your bad engine to make your good used engine a good again GuruYQC64. Like said above you can always depend on a dealership to charge you a few extra thousand and they do not warranty it but I can give a 90% chance odds you will have to take it back in 90 days or less for more work and a 99% chance it goes back to the shop in 1 year because of shady work ethics.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
I bought a engine from a junk yard and I needed the exhaust manifold and seller said we always leave the exhaust manifold on the engine and when they loaded it up I noticed the exhaust manifold was cut above the coupler to the rest of the exhaust and this was a 1965 model hard to find manifold that was so jagged cut off there was no way to use it or weld it I spend 3 months hunting threw piles of manifolds in junk yards all over town every weekend before I found one.
JUST THINK ANSWERS PRETTY LONG AND REALLY CONFUZING I AM A MECHANIC BY TRADE THINK IM CONFUSED CAN NOT IMAGINE HOW 02 EDGE OWNER FEELS YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY YOU MANAGED TO TELL YOUR STORIES
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Scream at yourself GuruYQC64, you did not even have any value to your answers toward this topic. Totally dis-functional. Real good GuruYQC64. I may give examples but all your giving is criticism.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Just remember GuruYQC64 you did not ask a question if you need to then start your own question topic and thread. Thank you GuruYQC64.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
I have been answering questions since I was ask to by Cargurus and have found out that most people want many detailed answers and the others later on ask similar question on the same thread so now I cover many of those as I can and giving real life examples is fine, I have been working on cars since before I was a teen and then even went to mechanic school and been working on cars ever since.
YOU MUST BE ONLY PERSON CARGURUS HAS CONTACTED TO GIVE ANSWERS BUT THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT CLEAR BECAUSE YOU SURE MANAGED TO CONFUSE ME AND IM MECHANIC BY TRADE BUT YOU HAVE WONDERFUL DAY AND GOODBYE
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
We all know your not a mechanic. If you are in the trade now? Those that are still in, (your so called trade) not near retirement are not mechanics they are part changers, they do not diagnose with knowledge and expertise, they have no understanding, they just change out parts until (if car owners has enough funds) they stumble on to the actual part failure. Have fun degrading the profession with all your confusion and all caps rants depending on your smart phone for direction .
NO SIR enginecreator I AM STILL IN THE TRADE AND NO IM NOT PART CHANGER OK YOUR TURN I HAVE BEEN IN THE TRADE FOR 35 YEARS SO AS SAID BEFORE HAVE GOOD DAY GOODBYE KEEP UP THE WORK . JUST THOUGHT I WOULD LET YOU KNOW YOUR ANSWERS COULD BE SHORTER NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR LIFE PROGECTS DONT OWN SMART PHONE BUT BET YOU DO
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Yea I just got me smart phone at Christmas my 45 year old son though he should be able to call me when I am not home, I am happily retired. What I do not like is your long post telling other what you think about life stories, keep your personal conflicts to yourself If you do not like reading then stop reading my post. Go about your sour way.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
You must not have a very happy life to get online and look for everyday people to pour your poor life attitude out on good people. Won't you call on Jesus, tell him your full of sourness for others.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
Truth is the truth. I am not say bye to you cause your not returning.
OK YOU GET THE LAST WORD MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONTACT JESUS YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH ANGRY LITTLE OLD MAN HAVE GREAT DAY
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
You should of retired when you had only 30 years in the business, that way you would have a better attitude instead of being bent out of shape, wore out and using all caps like you forgot to turn your blinker off ten miles ago and screaming at me.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
I have a regular house phone, you want to call me.
enginecreator answered 6 years ago
It looks like your not threw talking yet, Its getting past your bedtime and you have a real hard days work ahead of you.
This is pitiful Good Bye don't have the time of day for you think maybe you may be BAND AS WELL LOL