Why do all my windows roll down automatically when parked?
Asked by missygirl May 04, 2008 at 09:17 AM about the 2004 Honda Accord EX V6
Question type: General
After parking and locking our 04 Accord we have several times returned to find all four windows down about two inches. is there something or feature about this car that I don't know about.
242 Answers
The reason your windows are rolling down after you lock the vehicle is, you are holding the remote unlocking button too long when you open the car. There is a similar feature on a lot of post 1999 cars, BMW's and a lot of top of the range Fords also have this function. If you try holding the unlock button on the remote locking fob for a few seconds, then all the windows should open simultaniously and if you hold the lock button for a few seconds, then all the windows should close fully. Hope this helps
When I push my unlock button and hold it, the windows will go down automatically...maybe when you are unlocking it you are holding it down longer than you think? It is a nice way to get the hot air out of the car while you are close to it
Ghassan Emile answered 16 years ago
you are accidentally opening ur car windows with the key fob by pressing unlock for 2 long or your key is really dirty and is stuck in unlock mode to reclose windows from outside you have to insert the key and turn it into the lock position and hold it there you can't close the windows with the lock button hope this helps
Missygirl - don't listen to the B.S. about you being the problem that the windows go down. I have an '03 Accord EX and it does the exact same thing. I took it into the dealer b/c they kept giving me the same lame excuse ...until they themselves drove it off - parked it - went back - and saw the windows were all down. I'm now told that it has to do with the driver-side door locking system - whatever that is. it's costing me about $290 to fix. I'm still fuzzy on the details, but I keep running across this question on blogs everywhere and I keep seeing the same lame excuses. I know your post is old, but I'm hoping this answer will help someone else in the future.
bm329 - I have the same problem with 08 accord ex; dealer thinks it has something to do with UNLOCKING the car, but that's not when it happens. It's when I've already LOCKED the car, left it, and returned t find the windows down. The dealer wants to check it out. We'll see.......
anyonecanart answered 12 years ago
AlleMy 2004 Nissan pathfinder has brought joy.and fits thru out the years. Right now its sitting in the driveway with the front half covered in tarp. In the last four years or.so I've woken up to rain or snow storms and the windows had been down for HOURS!...thank god/dess for leather seats..still..the other day I drove 60miles at 4:30am to work on my dogs blankies..seriously. called Nissan..they were like"hmmmm bring it in for the cost of.your new born"..kidding...but he did say hmmmm...and let me not start on the engine light coming on at 30,000. And the small fortune I paid to never get it fixed..to never pass inspection...
anyonecanart answered 12 years ago
Otherwise...great vehicle..fun in the snow..and for camping...good luck out there folks...
I just found this post answering the question for my 2013 Accord. I am sorry folks, I thought you were all nuts. I went to the car which is parked just outside our den window and pushed the unlock. The second time I held it. The sunroof and all four windows went down. I am no longer a skeptic. When this happened yesterday, our neighbor saw the windows go down. He thought I was letting the hot air out before leaving. No, I was in the den and the unlock button was compressed in my pocket in my recliner. It does work for the 2006 CR-V. I tried it and nothing happened. Thanks folks.
I'm glad I found this post! This happened to me abiut 20 minutes ago! I thought someone, somehow, remotely opened the windows to my 2007 Honda Odyssey, to be asshole! I just came out if Costco...I was in there for only a few minutes returning something...when I came back out, all four windows are down AND IT'S RAINING!!! My hands were pretty full, and I had an umbrella, to boot, when I went in the store. I must've been holding that unlock button down and didn't realize it. I sat in my car forever trying to figure out how hat happened, b/c I know when I got out of the car, the windows were closed! The only thing wrong w/ this explanation is that after I read through these posts, I tried to do that from inside the car the windows didn't go down!
Perhaps your windows did not go down was because you were IN the car. My wife did not have her fob when she tried to enter the trunk. I tried to open from inside the car and it did not work. (Our car does not have keys exept for locking the trunk when using a valet. It has keyless start and entry.) To get the windows to go down, you push the unlock 2 times and hold the 3rd time. It works every time.
CarlosTheDwarf answered 11 years ago
This just happened to me too (2013 Accord). "Why would anyone break into our garage just to roll down our windows?!" Turns out a double-tap of the "Lock" button controls the window/sunroof. Crazy.
Honda Accord v6 ex-l 2009 -same thing. Accidentally kept the button down and the sun-roof and all windows started opening. Hope it wouldn't happen by itself some day in a parking lot, because otherwise it's a great car and I can forgive it some minor whims.
Wilmington answered 10 years ago
OMG....this has been happening to me for the past couple of days...and today it was 4 degrees outside and I was frozen because everytime I locked my car and started to walk away the stupid windows and sunroof would open...I tried it 8 times ugh !!! I thought it had something to do with my automatic start I have on the car 2009 Honda Accord...Now I'm like a crazy person I keep going outside to see if they are all down and open again ...thank god It's only a 2 door lol.... so I'm not crazy when i came online and read all your remarks lol...
Yep! I have a 2010 Honda Accord! And it does the same thing! I thought my car was possessed! But I tried what was suggested above, and if I hold the unlock button on my remote too long, it rolls the windows down partially, if I press it again, it rolls them down completely! But on my remote, the lock button does not roll them back up. I'm so glad that I found my answer here instead of wasting money on a mechanic! Whew! No ghost! Lol!
If all of what I'm reading here is true, why is there not something in the owners manual about this problem?
It's been happening with my Honda Ridgeline for months and couldn't figure out why until today. Pressing the unlock button a couple times roles down the windows a little at a time. Nothing in the manual about it.
dannydanile84 answered 10 years ago
what happen if make a lowered my honda accord 08,
OK this is an extra feature they offer nowadays, it might be somewhere in the manual, I just did not find it (though I was not looking so thoroughly) just check out the link below: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/05/your-key-remote-can-also- roll-down-your-windows_n_1857673.html
Nearly_wet answered 10 years ago
Well, I've read all the explanations for why all windows on late model higher-end Hondas are found in the lowered position as well as the sun roof. That is cool if you DESIRE to lower all windows and the sun roof at one time to quickly let some cooler air replace the built-up oven heat. The very tragic lowering of the windows can accidentally happen if the unlock button is pressed a second time and held. The more tragic news is that it can NOT be disabled from an option or driver's preference setting. I have found my windows lowered on three separate occasions, once at home only minutes before it began to rain and twice when I started to depart from work. I've asked my service manager at the dealership to contact Honda to get a "factory kill" for this unwanted baptism feature. His regretful answer was; "there is no such feature or option". I now try to remember to toss my keys onto the desk and not leave them in a vulnerable place such as my pocket where an accidental opening could occur.
Dido. Every service dept rep will say, "Bring your car in so we can see what's wrong." If they have never heard of this problem then they haven't been working at Honda long enough. I think that it is complete BS that they can't kill this "feature". It is a risk and should be at the customer's decision to disable. Shame!!!
Nearly_wet answered 10 years ago
Apparently most of the people that have mentioned that they have found their windows lowered always park in a covered area because "unwanted water" in the car was seldom, if ever mentioned, only the mystique of how the windows were lowered. There is a second concern as well in that the vehicle becomes vulnerable to someone pilfering through the console, glove box and anywhere else they desire to access. Considering both types of intrusion, I feel that Honda is being excessively callus and uncaring to a serious oversight in that they have not provided an option to disable this horrible design deficiency.
My 2013 has done this several times, but never on purpose. I walk around with my key fob in my pocket and sometimes coins, keys or other objects apparently come in contact with the unlock button. It has happened in my driveway but, so far, I haven't been caught by rain. With the prospect of rain damage that can happen I would rather have this feature disabled but that doesn't appear to be an option.
This happen to my 2013 Crosstour last night! We had a very heavy thunderstorm and came out to the garage this morning to find the windows down and the sunroof open. We were horrified - thought our car had been broken into inside the locked garage. Once logic returned, we thought that the intense lightning had somehow messed with the electronics and opened the windows. Just tested the key fob and sure enough, everything opened. However the lock button does not close anything. Just happy to have the mystery solved!
Honda_Owner answered 10 years ago
Same thing happened to me today for about the third or fourth time. I have a 2013 Honda Accord. I love the car except for this one flaw in design. I stopped at the service center where I bought the car and the serviceman stated that it is not a flaw, but that I just need to be more careful in the future. At that point, I knew I was getting nowhere and I needed to solve the problem myself. So I thought hard and came up with a solution. I figured if I put the remote key in a plastic box, it would prevent an accidental opening. I used an old hearing aid box for my key and an old earring box for my wife's key.
obviously Hondas do not relock themselves after 30 or 45 seconds.
Obviously mine does relock itself. I experimented several times, even laid my keys down on a table to make sure I didn't do it. Heard it lock itself every time. Checked doors. They were definitely locked.
Thank you JMikeS. most new cars will relock themselves in 30 or 45 seconds. Some owner manuals do not explain this feature.
alanthonyk answered 10 years ago
This is all bs about the remote. People are sayingg that when they get back to their cars that the windows and sunroof are down. Not the windows are going down when they try to unlock the doors. It happened to my 2014 accord last night and we had severe thunderstorms. So my car was drenched. I have the no key start up remote which I don't use the remote manually. I keep it in my purse so the only thing I do to get in my car is pull the handle and when I want to lock it, I use the black button on the door as well. I've tried getting in my car while my daughter has my purse and she's by the trunk of the car and the door will not open nor will it let me lock the door. So how is it the the remote open the windows and roof from inside a house, store, building etc. You have to be a certain feet in order for the remote to work. This is a manufacturer issue and the matter should be addressed for a recall. I know personally that my remote didn't open those windows. Honda need to be held accountable for this issue. I've researched this issue and Acura is having the same problem. Anybody have any ideas to hold Honda accountable?
UncleOracle53 answered 10 years ago
This is off subject a bit but several times since getting my '14 Accord Touring I noticed that if something in your pocket presses against the fob, it can also trigger the horn alert. First time this happened, I had no idea what caused it but knew what would happen if I didn't get it shut off pronto; the neighbors would be at my front door! I've since become very careful with the fob when it's in my pocket!
Maverick_500 answered 10 years ago
This same issue recently happened on my 2013 Accord. I attributed this occurrence to having the remote fob in my pocket along with some additional items: (coins, keys, etc.) Apparently, one of my keys attached to the fob ring had held down the remote unlock button while I was I was relocking the door using the driver door handle button. Very dumb design! Here are the steps I used to reproduce the issue: Lock the vehicle using the door handle button -> take out your fob -> push the unlock button -> then turn you back and walk away from the car -> Now Push down on the unlock button again. Keep walking away if you want to - but I assure you all your windows and sunroof will be open when you turn back toward the car. Scary! Now imagine these steps occurring on their own, when fob is in your pocket/purse and you enter a store, a restaurant, or place of work. When you arrive back to the car, you will be surprised… I was lucky nothing was stolen from my car during the 2 hours that the windows down, and sure glad it wasn't raining hear in Seattle at the time. I think, to put pressure on Honda, to get an OFF option for this stupid by-design feature. Everyone should call their Insurance companies and complain. When they start having to pay out for things stolen, they will pressure HONDA. Dale
So I have a 2013 Honda Odyssey and I have similar problems - windows opening, side doors sliding open, lift gate open. The difference is that in many cases this is happening at night when I am asleep and my keys aren't in my pocket, but laying a in drawer. There are standards for systems such as these and I think one of the biggest problems is that the Honda remote keyless entry system works in a range that far exceeds standards. I can open my car windows/doors/etc from a football field away, so even if the issue is that I've compressed a key on the fob, it simply shouldn't work unless I am in close proximity (3 meters or 12 feet). NOT 300 FEET!!! I asked my local dealer if I could talk to the regional sales rep for Honda and I was basically told that I couldn't. So, I am taking my car in once again and if they can't fix it, I am going to file a Lemon Law complaint.
I've been following this issue for quite a while and it seems still nothing has been done. GM waited 10 years before it rectified its faulty ignition switches which resulted in deaths. VW waited ages before it rectified it's abominable transmissions. Toyota refused to acknowledge the fact that its vehicles could have ECU related faults, instead, insinuating that a floor mat was responsible for jamming accelerators and companies wonder why people take out class actions? I have no fear of being sued for my comments, because ever thing I state on here can be well documented from media reports. In other words, everything is true. I could go on, but there is recalls in the newspapers every other day. If a vehicle, such as Hondas' windows roll down by themselves, then there is a computer issue or it MUST be programmed to do it. Recalls don't do companies any harm initially. They probably increases consumer confidence in some incidences. Ignorance and contempt for customer complaints affects profits and when that occurs, problem solved.
It's not a problem. Wake up you guys. It's meant to be. If you hold down the button for more than a second and you are holding it down firm it rolls down al the windows part way. It's a feature so that heat in Florida can get out of the car so you can sit in it right away comfortably. If it's not in Florida it doesn't matter. There is nothing to get upset about just don't hold the button down..
We have been going out to our attached garage only to find the sliding doors open or the windows all down. The car was not locked so it had nothing to do with holding the unlock button too long. This is on our 2014 Honda Oddessy. Sounds like Honda has a problem.
More than likely, a class action law suit will eventually get there attention.
ETHANALLEN1 answered 10 years ago
My 2013 Accord EX had all windows down and the sunroof open, 3 times. I assumed it was my mistake the first 2 times via the key fob. But the third time the key fob was on the dresser untouched for 28 hours. Somehow the car is opening up on it's own. Thunderstorm the first 2 times. Very cold 10 degrees F the last time. The inside was drenched the first time. Open windows and open sunroof can, and does, happen without input from the key fob.
I'm having the same problem with my 2003 Honda Accord Coupe. I was aware that my car had that feature because I have used it in the past but I know for a fact that the windows just went down all by themselves. My car has been sitting in my garage for two days unlocked with the keys on my dresser. I left my house in my other car for a few hours and when I got home the drivers side and passenger side windows were all the way down. There was no one at my house that could have let them down. It seems crazy that something like this could even happen but there is no other explanation for it. Something must have malfunctioned for the windows to go down all by themselves. I’m now worried that this could happen again.
We've had years of drought in California, however, last night it rained and in the morning all the windows of my 2013 Honda Accord, (including my moonroof) were ALL THE WAY OPENED!!! My key was lying flat on a countertop on the opposite side of the house. I takes me several minutes to get my (house) front screen door and wooden door opened. If I had accidentally pressed the key fob (while in my pocket), I would have heard or seen my car windows rolling down. One more odd thing, it rained all night and my car was lightly wet, which means the windows & moonroof opened all on their own minutes before I looked out my house window. The rest of my family was still in bed which means no one touched my key fob. I took in all the helpful info everyone posted, but It all still remains a mystery to me.
This happened to me last night in Southern California as well. The likelihood of this happening accidentally is so small. And the car did not seem wet enough to have had all the windows and moon-roof open for 16 hours in the rain. It rained for at least 7 of those hours. At least I have leather seats, but it was shocking to walk outside to find everything open this morning. I have a 2014 Accord EX. And had my keys out of my purse to unlock my condo gate and then check the mail. The mailman saw me get out of the car, and go into the condo. I think he would have noticed all my windows open in the downpour and come to let me know. So I too think it somehow happened overnight - triggered by the rain. So strange.
dreemweaver answered 9 years ago
OK it has happened to me twice now in my Honda Pilot and both times it was raining outside. If I'm locking it not pushing the unlock why would this happen? All the post reference unlocking but this is happening after I have locked the car and went inside?
ETHANALLEN1 answered 9 years ago
I checked with my Honda service department to have the "window down" feature removed. They said it cannot be removed. But I am not finished with Honda about this.
billinkentville answered 9 years ago
Wiselady, if you read the posts, the problem is that people often have their keys in their pockets and if they sit a certain way or the key gets bumped (or, in my case, I lean against a kitchen counter) all the windows open without your knowledge and if it's raining or snowing, it could be hours (or all night) before you find out - and by that time, the vehicle can be filled with rain or snow - or have everything stolen from inside. VERY bad design not to have an option to disable it! Not the quality I have come to expect from Honda. I drive a Ridgeline and this happened just yesterday and when I went out in the morning, all my windows were down! I hate it! Yes, Honda should be responsible for all damage / cleaning or stolen articles.
dreemweaver answered 9 years ago
Mine only seem to do this in rainy weather which is really strange?
I'm hoping I have resolved the issue I was having with my Accord. I called my local Honda dealer and they assured me that there must be a problem with my key fob since my remote was sitting on my dresser both times the incident occurred. I only had one working key fob at the time because the battery was dead in my other one. So I took the battery out of the one I was using at put in the one that was dead. It has been over a month and so far I haven't had any more problems with the windows going down by themselves.
you have a short some where or the fuses to the windows are going bad
2014 Accord Sedan Owners manual page 128 "Opening Windows and Moonroof with the Remote" describes this "feature". As described by many owners in this post this "feature" is a disaster because unlike the remote to unlock the door where if the door is not opened within a specified period of time (30 seconds) the windows/moodroof remain open. Currently looking for a fix from Honda.
2014 Accord I knew about the option to roll the windows down with the FOB I also have the fob in my purse and never take it out as when I walk up to the car it knows who I am and I can unlock the car without getting the Fob out of my purse so basically it is always in my purse. I met my husband after work for dinner and had my work laptop in the car with a bunch of other stuff and it was raining. We came out from dinner and there is my car all the windows open and the moonroof open too. I was in a panic that someone messed with my car and was worried about my work laptop being stolen. I would loose my job if that happened! Everything was still in the car thank god! But this feature needs to be removed or at least the availability to disable it. I leave my dogs in the car to run in the store and lock the doors and if the windows went down by themselves I can tell you my dogs would jump out of the car. Honda please make it available to customers to disable this feature. The 10 or 15 seconds to cool off your car before you get into it is not worth all the other headaches of things getting stolen or your animals jumping out of the car!
Hi. I parked my 2014 Honda Jazz at a busy shopping centre yesterday and left. When I returned to the vehicle all my windows were down. I'm positive the windows were up before locking the door. Is anyone having a problem like this?
billinkentville answered 9 years ago
Exactly! I HATE this! What a crazy set up that can't be turned off! I lay down in my house once with my keys in my pockets only to find all the windows down the next morning! Good thing it wasn't the following night when we had a huge rain storm! Insurance won't cover it! HONDA MUST CHANGE THIS!!!
billinkentville answered 9 years ago
I then found out that if the "unlock" button on the key is long-pressed, it opens all windows all the way and does not roll them back up! Then why, if you press the "unlock" button once and it unlocks the vehicle, why does it lock automatically again after a short time? Can't it roll back up the windows after a short time too? AHHHH! (obviously a bit stressed about this)
Opening windows and moonroof with the remote (key fob) According (pun?) to our Honda dealer and the regional technical rep Honda has NO FIX for this problem. Quite astonishing considering that most newer Honda's now have literally dozens of owner set preferences and Honda has had full knowledge of this long standing complaint. All we, and hundreds/thousands of other owners are requesting is a preference to turn this option OFF to prevent unintentional windows/sunroof opening leaving the vehicle open to the elements and theft of the items inside. Honda's tone deafness on this issue and the brain dead engineering behind it are baffling considering Honda's excellent record of high quality products. I suspect this is the fault of a third party supplier as this same feature/issue is found in cars from other manufacturers. I still blame Honda. From unprotected gas tanks to faulty ignition switches to shrapnel filled airbags I just can't wait for "driverless cars", what could go wrong?
Not sure what purpose it serves, but this"feature" is explained in the owners manual.
glimpsemom answered 9 years ago
My 2012 Odyssey has been doing this for a couple months. Usually we get out of the car - don't even touch the key fob as we are getting out of the car - and the windows all start to open. It has nothing to do with the key FOB as I've tried changing it out, changing batteries, etc. Looked at fuses but nothing has fixed it. I believe it has to do with the driver side door system. Sometimes when we drive around the locks start clicking "unlock". Not an unlock issue - only unlock, which also activates the auto window feature. Hate to pay to fix a common problem!!! Ideas?
It happened to me today. I think the only reasonable thing is make Honda fix this problem (put an off option) or to start a class action.
Because when you lock the car and set the alarm and you depress the buttons for too long or too hard, the car alarm activates the window roll down feature, too....not sure why....but that is why...........mine did/does it, too, from time to time. I have learned how best to depress my key fob button to lock and activate alarm.....when I come back out to unlock and lay on the buttons too long, windows up and down and in between.........so you don't have a Ghost. lol
This has been a problem for me with my 2008 Honda Accord and my 2013 Nissan Maxima. I finally figured out the cause as well as a cost effective solution that will guarantee that the windows will never open by themselves again. The cause was due to my sitting on the keyfob in such a way as to accidentally activate the code to lower the windows. I have had soaked seats as well as a lot of snow on the seats due to this issue. The solution turned out to be quite simple and quick. First, I bought a leather key fob pouch through Amazon.com for about $5.00. Then I glued one of my pet's old aluminum rabies vaccination tag inside the leather cover so that the tag covers the buttons on the key fob. I used a hammer to beat the aluminum tag into a curved shape approximating the curve of the leather cover. I then used a leather/metal glue to affix the tag permanently to the inside of the leather cover. If you know how to sew leather you could stitch another piece of leather around the dog tag so that it can't possibly pull away from the leather key fob cover. I hope this helps any of you who have been at s loss to figure out a workable solution to this aggravating problem.
The only way that any windows would open by themselves, would be a massive fault or an ECU programme. I have read articles about this happening to Hondas and people have said they cannot find anything about it in their manual. With all the complaints about this, Honda should issue a statement advising customers about a solution. I have a 2013 Fiesta and i do not have this feature programmed into my ECU and if it was, i would want a combination to deactivate it.
The same happened to my 2015 HRV today (I thought someone broken all my windows at first, then thought it was a Ghost / incorrect door bell signal causing all my windows WIDE opened). Why this still not fix after 7 years!!! Please don't do this to me.
billinkentville answered 9 years ago
Ok, since Honda won't fix the problem (just got off the phone with customer service), I decided to fix it. I opened the key fob, took out the black "Unlock" button, put it back together and super-glued a small piece I cut from an old credit card over the spot where the "Unlock" button is. It won't happen to me again.
oneconcerned answered 9 years ago
I have a 2006 Honda Accord Coupe and after 8 years, my windows are starting to go down on their own. So, it has nothing with the keyfob, because if it did, it would have been happening since 2006, but it just started in the past 6 months. I managed to keep it from happening to the passenger side window by keeping it locked. I have a button in the car that allows me to do that, but there is no button on the drivers side that allows me to lock that window, so that one still comes down at will. I have taken everything out of the car such as my GPS, but it is so inconvenient for me. I will take it to the dealer and tell them what the other person said about his taking his and they were able to fix it for under $300.00 and I think he said they told him it was a problem with the driver-side door locking system.
Buffalo1956 answered 9 years ago
The windows including my sun roof all were open when I came out from an hour of shopping only to freak out thinking someone was pulling a prank on me to include thinking my son had driven by seeing my car and putting them down because he has a spare key. I told my husband what happened and he thought I was nuts. Well it happened again today. I went to the store and came home 20 minutes later locking my car and going into the house. After a few minutes, my husband told me I left the windows open. I told him, see I wasn't crazy as it happened again. So anyway, I found this blog and decided to try what many have said. The thing is you have to hit the unlock button once then hit it again and hold it and sure enough every window opened including the sun roof. No ghosts and no one to blame but myself. I will be careful next time. Would hate to see that happen when it is raining. Thanks for the help!
Had the same issue with a 12 coupe V6 EX-L model. Never held the key fob down as some state. However, when unlocking the car, sit down inside and close the door... W/o turning on the car, all the windows roll down including the moon roof. Same when I exit... Prior to pressing the key fob to lock, when I close the door all the windows roll down. Glendale Honda detected an unusual power surge but wanted to rip the car apart to find the root of the issue.
Traded this pile in for a different manufacturer vehicle last night. Honda isn't what it used to be.
Had the same problem. This site is very helpful. Very scary to leave this car parked anywhere. It's a 2012, has happened twice, also had a Nissan Altima that had the same problem. Thinking I may look at a Madza.
I have had this problem since i got my brand new honda odyssey this year. All the windows roll down including the moon roof and it only happnes when it is raining. I am scared to park it in the open because god knows how wet it will get. And no I do not even touch my key. It is in my purse and nothing is touching it. and it also happens when the keys are hanging on a nail. I have had it happen a couple of times, when i have shut down the engine and my daughter has got down and closed the door. I then get down and close the door by using the button on the handle and my windows will just roll down
Have 2014 Accord that this happened to, unfortunately when I locked the car and left out of town with friend. 3" rain filled the car that night and when I back 3 days later full of mildew. Car is essentially ruined. Never buy another Honda.
This is a serious problem. If it was something in my pocket (coins keys etc) messing with the FOB, then how come I never once had an the alarm blaring at me. Instead How come the window has rolled down on me 5-6 times. This thing almost cost me a lot of money this morning when it started raining and I was fortunate enough to catch it. I have seen this happening from the first week I bought this car. HONDA MUST FIX THIS...
I have had this exact problem with my 2013 Accord. I went into the grocery store in Omaha temperature about 20 and a light snow. No way I would have any windowns down. Returned to my car within 10 minutes to discover both windows down and the sunroof open. My local dealer blamed the key FOB being depressed. It was in my jacket in the grocery cart nothing touching it at all. Honda has a problem that needs a fix.
Olivewillow answered 8 years ago
Honestly thought my daughter's car was haunted...feel so much better now!! My daughter just got a 2016 civic, 2 days ago. This am all windows were down when my husband left at 4:30am. Funny because we were all admiring it last night and swear the windows were up!
Just had this happen in my new 2016 Honda Pilot. So glad this thread existed so I could figure out what was happening!
http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-instantly-lower-your-car- windows-with-the-key-remote/
douglaslappe answered 8 years ago
My 2013 Honda Accord just started doing this. My wife is Colorado Springs, CO and has both fobs. She is afraid of locking herself out of the car, as she has in the past. We live in Noblesville, IN and that is where the car is parked at this moment. There is no way that my wife could be pressing the unlock button twice and have the windows roll down. I just do not believe the signal strength would be strong enough to reach from Colorado. Penske Honda told me they would look at it in 2 wks.
We did determine that my husband was indeed the culprit. He carried his fob in his pocket, and somehow was causing the problem. He takes it out of his pocket when he comes in the house, and that did take care of it for us. Good luck with your problem, though. It would not reach all the way from Colorado.
I went out this morning to find all four windows and sunroof open, despite child window lock button depressed, on my three month old 2016 Honda Pilot Touring Edition. I googled the cause and found this answer. I tried tapping the unlock button on my key fob and sure enough, all four windows and sunroof opened. I cannot close them with the key fob. Luckily, it wasn't raining this morning, but I am concerned about it happening again. I'm going to contact the dealer. If I learn of a fix, I'll post it.
douglaslappe answered 8 years ago
Its the car's CPU, not the fob. My wife had both of her fobs in Colorado, about 1200 miles away, and this happened. The dealer wanted $115 per hour to try and figure out why. I purchased a rebuilt ECU and placed it in the car. Problem repaired.
douglaslappe, is the part called a CPU or an ECU? I have to get mine fixed. This is a brand new car and should be covered under warranty. I just need to be sure of exactly what to tell them that needs replacing. Thank you so much!!!
Glad to see all the posts.I am sure that I closed all the windows when I came out of the Car Honda Accord EXL 2015.When I returned to the car in the morning I got shocked and I saw full of snow inside my car. I saw all the 4windows were opened 2inches and moonroof was opened slightly.After seeing all these posts tried doing the unlock button long press, all the four windows were opened.
Norm_in_NE answered 7 years ago
2012 Pilot - Same thing happened today; first time in 2 years of ownership (4 windows 1/2 lowered, sunroof opened 4 inches). Have had this occur twice with my 2012 Accord LX in the past 4 years. So far not in the rain or snow, and nothing stolen. Always happens in my driveway. Thanks for all the posts so I know I ma not crazy.
We have a 2016 Honda Touring model manufactured 11/2016 (3 months old). Went out this morning and every window including sunroof was open. This is definitely a Honda problem
Plumbob231 answered 7 years ago
My 2006 Accord had this issue, it is not user error, mine got so bad, I could be driving down the highway, 70 mph, and my windows would roll down! It seemed to be humidity related in my instances, since it mainly occured during or very near rains. Which could definitely point to wiring or circuitry issues, I've since sold my Honda but wanted everyone to have my input Incase it helps with your future litigation to get Honda to help.
MiaRobbins answered 7 years ago
I bought a top of the line Acura RDX. It is 2017 and I have had it for a few months. I have this morning I went to my car and found all the windows and moon roof open. I do not use the fob to lock the door. Anyone want to pursue a class action suit let me know. I'm in. I no longer feel safe parking this car.
Honda_Owner answered 7 years ago
After this happened to me a few times, I got me a small jewelry box that I keep my fob in so it does not accidentally open my windows and sunroof. One time this happened and it rained that night and drenched the inside of my care. I used my shop vac to suck up as much water as possible and then placed a dehumidifier inside the car over night with the windows rolled up.
I left for work this morning and my new 2017 Honda Civic had all four windows down completely. I first thought I had been broken into and then I checked the tires and all were fine. I got in the vehicle and closed the windows one by one and proceeded on. It rained a little the night before. Scary. It must have been the key remote. Problem is I did nothing different. Not sure when this happens again. Went back out tonight at 11 pm making sure the windows were closed. I will ask my local Honda dealer to check this out on my first oil change in a few months if not sooner.
Stop using the fog and that would solve the problem, not very convenient but is the only solution, at least for me it worked. Honda sucks.
Have Honda Pilot 2009. Now in 2017 it just started opening windows and moonroof on its own. No, it is not the FOB because that is kept in key rack hanging. Nothing touching it. Please post how to file class action law suit so all can join having this issue.
I have the opposite issue to others on this forum. I have a 2013 Honda Accord and initially the second press of the opening button on the fob would open the windows and sun roof. But lately this feature has stopped working. Honda say it will take one hour to diagnose the issue and possible more time to fix it. Has anyone else had this issue? I find the feature useful in hot weather.
I have Honda Accord 2017 holding unlock button on second press will make your windows and sunroof open.
My Honda Accord 2013 also used to work the way Deekshith says his does. But now it has stopped. My question really should have been: has anyone experienced this issue and if so how was it fixed?
djhemberger answered 7 years ago
I've had my 2007 Honda Accord for about two years now. Never had an issue till the last two weeks. Once found the windows down and doors unlocked in my driveway one morning and once found it the same way in a parking lot after returning to it after about 10 hours. I worry about someone able to get into the car in my drive and use the overhead garage door buttons to get into my house. How do we get a class action lawsuit started asap! Please advise, I will join.
This is an old question but you can turn this feature off if you look in the manual, I'm almost positive if you put the key in the drivers side door and hold it one way it turn off this feature.
Twice I have found my 2013 Accord with windows down and sunroof open. Once about two years ago when a taxi dropped us off from the airport - all fobs inside the unoccupied house. Neighbor said he noticed everything open a couple of weeks before we came home and after a rainy day. Second time was yesterday. We went to a public event indoors, when a sudden microburst poured water like a monsoon. Overheard a recent arrivee say that someone's sunroof was open. Of course- mine ! My fob was 50 yards away from the car, and I hadn't touched it. One CAN stimulate this ill-designed feature from the fob, but that 'feature' has created a serious problem. And all the fairytales peddled about fobs being mysteriously pressed are hand-waving.
Just got done reading 90+ blogs about the windows/sunroof opening without our knowledge. This week my wife left work to find all 4 windows down and sunroof wide ass open...she freaked out...someone could have popped the trunk and grabbed her purse. Went to Bay Honda of Panama City and took them some time to figure it out. Sounds like a crappy feature that I would like to disable. The owners manual under windows or the key fob has NO info. Add me to the unhappy Honda owners group and class action law suit....BTW so happy it didn't rain that morning or I would have had a violent spouse to live with. HONDA...I hope your reading these post and we're not whining to ourselves.
Just purchased a new Honda CRV 2017 3 weeks old. Went in to eat came back to the CRV after a half hour to find all windows, moon roof and rear lift all wide open. Key fob was not used or pressed in any way.
I feel like I'm passing on a chain letter. I've had my 2017 Accord Hybrid for about a month and this has happened 3 or 4 times. I come out to my car after having parked a few hours before and all the windows and the moon roof are open. Here's the docs, maybe not for my car but it sounds like it applies: http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/TL0404/TL0404O00100B.pdf Opening the Windows and Moonroof with the Remote Transmitter You can open all of the windows and the moonroof from outside with the remote transmitter. 1. Press the UNLOCK button once to unlock the driver’s door. 2. Press the UNLOCK button a second time, and hold it. The passenger’s doors unlock, and all four windows and moonroof start to open. To stop the windows and moonroof, release the button. 3. To open the windows and moonroof further, press the button again and hold it. If the windows and the moonroof stop before the desired position, repeat steps 1 and 2. You cannot close the windows or the moonroof with the remote transmitter
Twice my 2016 Honda Pilot Touring had the windows and roof window open by themselves. Once in Denver, my car was in my garage. Several months later, I was in Cedar Rapids at a hotel, all windows and roof window opened. Both times were at night, my fob in my pants, my pants on a chair. Both times there was a lightning/thunder storm. Can lightning or tunder cause this to happen? Honda 104th Av accuses me of holding the fob down to open the windows. That was not the case.
I have a 2013 Crosstour and love this feature. I have a black car not by choice so summertime it's fantastic. Accidentally discovered it. Was clicking the remote walking to the car and all windows and sunroof opened. Will have to check the lock button to see if they go back up. Would love that.
I purchased a Honda CRV 2017 in January. I have found my car twice now in the parking lot with the windows down all the way and thought my car had been broken into. Nothing taken and luckily it was not raining. It does scare me though to know it has already happened twice. I have been monitoring the internet to see if there was a sure answer. I read in one of the answers above that it needed a rebuilt ECU, whatever that is.
I believe the problem is, that the unlock button on your key fob is pressed down for several seconds it goes through this process to allow the interior to cool down as you are approaching. It is a good feature for what it is intended, but the problem is that it will activate in your pocket or purse if something gets against it for several seconds. My Accord was a 2013 and I no longer have it. With all the complaints, I can't believe that Honda hasn't addressed the issue. I'm sure some people have had their interiors soaked or worse.
Yes, the windows will open using the key fob or accidentally pressing it for a prolonged period if it is in a confined space such as a pocket. However, for some of us, the windows, sun roof, sliding doors, and liftgate were opening when the key fob was in a location such as a drawer with nothing pressing upon it or at a distance, such as a football field away, that none of this should have happened. Several of us have found fixes, including replacing the ECU (computer) or simply making sure that the one lock on the drivers side door is well lubricated. So, there are some things that seem to work. Still, hard to feel safe and secure, even with those fixes. The real point is that Honda has made no effort to solve the problem. My dealership insisted that Honda wouldn't even talk to me and the dealership didn't really want to solve the problem either. So my 2013 Honda Odyssey is gone. I won't deal with a company that can't be bothered with its customers.
I have a 2018 Ridgeline, two weeks old and this has happened to be 3 times already, every time while it’s raining. Really sucks
New Honda 2017 CRV. Happened to us twice. Got rain in new car... probably will make this issue worse. Hope our dogs will be safe. We will be hooking them in with seatbelt harnesses. Clearly this is not a feature...its a malfunction!
I walked back to my 2012 Accord this morning after grocery shopping to find all 4 windows rolled all the way down and my sunroof open. I know I did not hold down my unlock button and there is nothing in my purse that would hold it down continuously either. Honda needs to recall this crap!
carlito317 answered 6 years ago
It just happen to my 2017 Honda Civic hatchback twice. The first time I though it was me ,but it did happen a second time.I will be bringing it to the dealer after the holidays . Will post their answer later
Well, this just happened to me during a rare southern snow storm. I realized my windows were open with almost as much snow inside as outside. I changed key ring last night and must have hit the button without realizing it. Now I have a nice mess to deal with when this snow stops! Will be calling the dealer tomorrow.
So glad I found this post. I thought for sure someone had hacked the computer system in my 2016 Accord Touring. Sure makes me wonder about these people who design these cars. They can install this feature that nobody seems to want. They make it so you can’t disable it, but they decide to remove the light from the glove compartment. Because nobody needs to be able to see in their glove compartment at night, right?
Ody2015_BramptON answered 6 years ago
Same thing happened to me on morning of Christmas eve, I saw all windows of my Odyssey 2015 opened and I'm 100% sure it's all closed as I scrub the snow on all windows the previous day. I'm planning to report it to Honda as I thought it's an electronic malfunction. Then I saw this post and referred to my owner's manual to verify if this feature (opening all windows from fob) is available and voila there's an instruction how to open all windows from the fob: "Press the unlock button twice within 10 seconds and hold it down for the second time. If the windows stop midway, repeat the procedure.". Tried it and all windows opened.
alanthonyk answered 6 years ago
The problem is that the windows are rolling down without using the fob feature. Like was said, you have to hold the fob down for it to work. My fob was on the dresser. Did the dresser grow hands to hold the fob down? Nope, don't think so! We want to know why is this happening. People cars has been damaged due to this feature.
I have a 2017 Honda Civic where the windows down and trunk open thing only happened once so far in 10 months. Once is still too much. I don't feel safe. Otherwise car is good. I have a 3 year lease with option to buy. I am waiting to see if this happens again and if so goodbye Honda.
I've had a 2012 Accord for about 6 months now. Today I went to the doctor and was inside the building for over an hour. When I came out, all 4 of my windows were completely rolled down. I KNOW I did not hit the buttons on the armrest to make all the windows roll down. So, my interior was soaked. The doctor's office loaned me a couple of towels that I dried the console, dashboard, etc off. I got back to work and used a shop vac but didn't seem effective. Right now I'm letting the car run with the heater on full blast to see if that will dry it out. I hope I don't have to get interior work or an expensive detail to prevent it getting musty or moldy. I did buy a 3rd party warranty for the car so maybe I'll visit the dealer and see what they say about it.
2017 Accord Sedan. Leaving for work today and all five windows were down. Yesterday It rained and thunderstorms were in the forecast although the car was not wet this morning. Read almost all of the comments above. A lot mentioned rain or thunderstorms and it makes me wonder if weather is factor. I don't think I accidentally pressed any buttons. Whatever the cause, this is a big problem for me. I've owned a lot of Hondas but this issue could end that.
same as most of u 2013 accord coupe high end. never had this problem until today of all days, during a rain storm. Came to car after work and found all windows and sun roof open and the inside completely wet. Had to go dry everything out for hours. Thank god i had leather... I know that this was a "feature" these key fobs have. But they should really have a setting for disabling this feature; just like that have the auto keyless entry setting to open just ur driver door and not all the doors. I mean we get to choose this feature. Why would u not have a setting to disable this is beyond me
hilarious. 2010 accord EX. Last night I came outside to find all four windows and the sunroof open and it was pouring rain. I thought it was a poltergeist. My friend researched this for me today and I’ve just spent the last 20 minutes killing myself laughing.
I just bought a 2015 Accord less than a week ago and have already been introduced to the problem. Went to bed last night while it was raining, car was locked and all windows up. Came out this morning and all the windows were halfway rolled down (still raining). I managed to wipe it all up and all in all it could have been worse, but now I'm sure all my coworkers find it amusing that I keep jumping up every 15 minutes to see if the windows are still up. Hopefully unlock got pushed while I was getting ready for bed and it's not the problem I see others reporting where it happens when it's on the key fob. I guess I better start keeping a tarp in the trunk and covering it every time I park anywhere. And I DID love me some Honda .. :(
I have no way to confirm or deny ALL of the people that report they did not press on the key fob but found their vehicle "open". I can however offer alternative possibilities. While pressing the unlock button on the key fob twice and holding it the second time is ONE (designed) way to open all windows and the moon-roof there is another (designed) way to do this. The other way is to use the actual key in the driver's door lock and turn to unlock twice within 10 seconds holding it the second time With this (key in the lock) option, let us AND Honda realize that this mechanism is exposed to the environment and could possibly be getting shorted out with lets say rain water (that could leak past door and/or window seals -the "control circuit" is in the driver door of at least my 2016 Civic) or even condensation at an interval that could cause the "control circuit" to activate and thus roll down all windows and open the moon-roof. Or it could have some other possible design flaw in the "control circuit" that allows activation of this "feature" when we do not want or need it to. I like the option but I can see it is not without issue. Heck, years ago my 1996 Prelude would randomly not operate the power windows and I found that problem to be with solder joints that had felled in the "control circuit" that was mounted inside of the driver's door that would get slammed shut and exposed to road vibrations daily. Things other than the key fob could be at play is my main thinking here.I found this while researching for my 2016 Civic and whether or not it was possible to remotely (key fob) close all windows and the moon-roof and thought I would put in my two cents worth. And by the way= not on North America models as they are equipped from the factory but it seems there is and add on circuit that could make this feature possible.
The more I've thought about it- I think the weather and hard rain triggered the windows rolling down. I don't think it was me pressing anything on the key fob multiple times or holding one of the buttons down too long. Next time I'm at the Honda dealer for an oil change I plan to ask them about this. If it's weather related, I hope there is some fix for it. Luckily I have a garage, so at least at home at night it wouldn't be an issue if the windows rolled down, so it's unlikely that it would exposed to 9 hours of rain all night, but it's still a problem if I go somewhere and I come back to my car after a couple of hours and find that the windows are down during a hard rain.
I've seen this in my 2017 CR-V; Windows part way down, sunroof popped open. What has been even more disturbing, and has happened a number of times, is that the back hatch opens. I've had a number of occasions where I'm met in the morning with a wide open hatch. I'm glad that others are seeing similar problems so at least I know I'm not nuts, but the comments lead me to believe that I'm going to end up dumping what is otherwise a great vehicle. The risk of being parked somewhere and having this happen is pretty concerning.
This windows down thing and trunk opening with my Civic 2017 had only happened once when it rained overnight moderately. There seems to be a connection with windows opening and rain. Nothing since and my Honda dealer reacted like they never heard of this problem. I am proceeding with caution if it happens again I'll search for another brand of vehicle. I did read some past comments that other car makers have had problems as well. Who to trust? I did have a Honda 2003 for 13 years without this problem. But i did not have electronic keys to open or lock doors back then. Must be the root cause.
Brand new 2018 Pilot Touring. Experienced this phenomenon twice the first day I had the vehicle. Dealership says I must have depressed the UNLOCK button on the fob accidentally. Perhaps, but from what I am reading online, there very likely could be other causes. And it was raining off and on yesterday with some thunder (but fortunately not when this happened.) Regardless of whether this is accidental "user error"with the key fob or a malfunction/defect with the vehicle -- it is unacceptable. It is absurd to have a design flaw in something as simple as a key fob that for over 10 years now has caused Honda (and apparently Acura and Nissan) owners to unknowingly open their windows and expose their vehicles to rain damage and theft. I have already notified the dealer that I need to return the vehicle first thing Monday morning. Unfortunately this appears to be a problem across all Honda models so I can't even consider another vehicle from them. Very disappointing.
I just bought a 2018 civic ex. My neighbor came over to tell me that my windows were down and it rained all night! The wierd hing was the sunroof was back partially and all 4 windows were each roled down exactly the same......1/3 of the way!! When i lastdrove it, it was raining......o i of coursevhad he windows up. Frustrating!
I have a 2014 Crosstours a great running car except the starter grinds 6 out of 10 times . The windows and sunroof open several times each times the same height and the front seat once it stops move to the same different position . Besides that the Crossover run exceptionally well. I wish they fix it but the same line we have to see it. The great but it does not happen all the time, I frustrated about this, some fun.
2017 Civic hatch in shop now for this. Happen 6 or 7 times Always in heavy rain. Dealer can't figure it out. Any lawsuits on this. Honda has a huge design flaw they aren't addressing. Major bug and big deal when windows open and not documented in owner manual.
Have a 2018 Crv... Problem remains. My fob hangs on a hook overnight. Sitting at the dealer right now and "we have never seen this problem!" car has 3000 miles and this has happened six times. I am thinking lemon law complaint.
Have a 2018 Honda Civic EX. One morning after a snowfall awoke to find the windows part way down - like 1/3 , enough to let some snow in on the seats and carpet and doors. Thankfully I was able to get the shop vac and clean it up before it melted. My wife would not admit to leaving the windows down or even having them down, "after all it is winter!" This morning April 14 after shopping we returned to the car in the parking lot to find all the windows down all the way! A Google search led me to your site and this situation that has been around for years. I tried pressing the unlock button twice and holding it and behold it works. But I have to go to the car and put key in ignition to close windows. Surely it is time for Honda to fix it. Perhaps legal action is required to get their butts in gear? Bill MacMullin
I recently purchased a 2018 Honda Civic EX. Had a neighbor knock on my door one morning to tell me my windows were all rolled down. Unfortunately it had been pouring rain for the last 8 hours. I went outside and they were all down 1/3 of the way. They were all down the exact same level. After reading this site, I think because I keep my keys in my pocket, I may have accidentally hit the "lock" button too long inadvertently. Kind of like butt dialing on the phone. Had lunch with my Honda salesperson last week and told her about it and she said that the unlock feature does occur by pressing the "unlock" button for a few seconds to assist in cooling the car down on a hot day remotely.
Honda is giving lots of bogus answers as to why the windows go down unexpectly. Someone needs to get a Politican involved especially during the next election. They are getting away with selling faulty product. The also are guilty of not giving full maintenance plans when serviced. When I asked to downgrade my expensive maintenance plan no phone calls returned from any Honda dealers. Suspicious behavior to say the least.
I have been following all the replies to why the Honda windows go down unexpectedly...and to say the least...I'm calling BULLSHIT on Honda. My wife's 2015 Accord did it while she was at work in a not great part of town. Thank god nothing of value was in the car or nor did it rain or get robbed. Honda...Hope you are reading all this hate mail. If I want my car to be cooled down...I'll open the doors and wait a minute or two....and I live in Florida. I don't like 3 inches of water in my car because you put a feature on the remote (thats not in the owners manual or even well known by salesman)...very bad design
I know this is not a solution to your problem but try this. Insert your key in the driver door and turn right to lock the car. Turn the key right again and hold it. It suppose to close all your windows at once. It works on 2007 Honda Odyssey Touring.
I have no answer but I can say that we have had the same problem with our 2016 Honda Civic. Really upset about. We live in a condo in a very nice neighborhood but that doesn't stop the thieves from stealing cars in here. Just three days ago that was the case. Thank God a neighbor has a surveillance camera and called the police. They were able to apprehend one of them and Thank God this didn't happen with our car that night. Our trunk sometimes opens by itself too. I think we should open and lock our car without using the fob and see what happens.
So glad it's happening to others. I was beginning to think my car was haunted!!! I came out from work with both the front windows down. At a ballpark, I came back and all 4 windows were down about 3 inches. Yesterday came out from work and my trunk was wide open. I don't hold the unlock key, but I have been known to keep hitting lock button until I hear the beep (out of habit from my other vehicle). However, WHY is there a delay when it happens? IF it is occuring, it would be nice if I was standing there and could hear it...not come back several hours later to find it happened!!
MiaRobbins answered 6 years ago
I solved the problem. I traded my Acura for an Infiniti. Not Honda motors and doesn't have that problem.
AnnieNothappy answered 6 years ago
Found my 10month old Honda HRV in the work car park with all windows down and sunroof open. Car still locked. Local service dept wants to charge me to investigate. Grrrr! Now I know it’s an inherent problem I’ll go back to my dealer and see where to from here. It’s been interesting for me to read these blogs as it’s seems to be happening in USA but I’m in Australia.
I am on the central coast of NSW Australia and just found all 4 windows of my 2017 Honda Civic down and its been raining. After reading the above comments I will be ringing my local Honda dealer again as they blamed the Global Opening system that i had never heard of. Pretty sure I did not hold the open button down as i walked away from the car.
My 2018 civic hatchback has done this about 5 times in the month that I have owned it. Two of those days it was raining. The next to the last time, my wife and I were miles away with the fobs when it Supposed to take it to the dealership in 3 days but the guy on the phone didn't hold out much hope and neither do i.
This is such bs. It's not the remote accidently being touched. Yes it's s feature but although u don't have the issue with Windows my 2005 odyessy alarm goes off over and over and over to the point it's embarrassing I can't leave it and go anywhere in another person's car bc it's on and off every time the temp and humidity change or the wind blows and the sun hits it wrong. I can't afford to fix or diagnose I'm a single mom and bought used. I'm just screwed. Huge inconvenience. I learned I had this feature when trying to get the alarm to turn off. I was in the shower 5:30 am it happens or middle of night. Sometimes a few days no alarm. Others like 10 times in a 3 hour period. I'm going crazy.
Really grateful to find this blog. Have a brand new Honda CR-V. Less than a month old. Was vistung my Mother at a care facility. She was being moved today to a different room, so I was busy. Of course we had a down pour that lasted quite a while. When I came out of building to go home all 4 windows plu the sunroof were halfway open. You cannot imagine the amount of water in my vehicle. It was everywhere! Puddles on the floor mats, from the & back. Beautiful leather seats soaked! Cup holders had water in them! I was in total shock because I was certain I had not opened them! My brother showed me with the key fob the feature works. Have no idea how I did it! I was just sick thinking I had done this! After reading this blog I realized it was not my fault. I am still trying to dry out leather seats & every thing else in my Honda tonight. Have fans running in both front & back seat. Our dealer also said there is nothing you can do to turn this feature off! My husband sent Honda a nasty gram. I am sure they won’t fix this!
alanthonyk answered 6 years ago
I have a 2014 accord and it happened to me with the windows and sunroof opening during a thunder storm. I took my car back to the dealership and had them to get the water from out my car. I was not paying them shit because I had just purchased the car and I told them it they were trying to charge me, I was returning the car. This is a bad feature and no we are not mysteriously pressing the fob. This is some type of problem that's occurring when it thunder storming.
This just happened to us two days ago on our 2017 Accord V6 EX. We were visiting friends. The car was locked when we went to sleep. The key fob was on the night table. Our friends checked all the cars before bed when they let the dogs out. The next morning, the sun roof, all the windows, and the trunk were open. Because it had stormed during the night, the car was filled with water. The carpets and mats were soaked, the beautiful leather seats were/are soaked. The key fob was never touched. The malfunction indicator light was on. The car is now at the dealership. We'll see what they come up with. We are afraid that the car is going to get moldy from all the water.
Try putting scotch tape over the drivers side keyhole to keep moisture out. RJ
Seems like I keep seeing rain/thunderstorms happening as part of this problem. The wife and I were on the way to a restaurant last night. About half way we ran into a rain/thunderstorm with some lightening occurring. After we ate, we came out to our 2017 Accord and all the windows were down and the sun roof was wide open. Luckily the rain had stopped shortly after we went into the restaurant. I'm thinking maybe rain/lightening might have something to do with this problem. Would the lightening somehow affecting the Fob or the car's electronics somehow? It just seems like about one half or more of these problems seems to be occurring during storms. I hope Honda can resolve this strange problem soon.
Oh my goodness, this happened to me yesterday --- came out of the restaurant about 3 pm ish (waiting for it to stop pouring / thunderstorm) and came out to my car with all of its windows rolled down and the moonroof. Car was soaked!!!! All the lights on the dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree!!!! After reading all of this, one has to wonder what Honda is hiding and why haven't they addressed this!!!!
2006OdysseyEX answered 6 years ago
I got caught up in reading this ongoing tale of anguish and I have an idea (based on my 2006 Odyssey EX). The normal Honda operation that everyone describes (hold the unlock button on the fob and the windows roll down) ALSO works if you open the driver's door with the key. Turn it to the unlock position a second time and hold it, and down come the windows. Seems to me that an electrical fault in the driver's door lock could easily simulate this action and intermittently roll the windows down. Why just when the car is unattended, particularly in the rain? The feature is disabled when the key is in the ignition (according to the shop manual). Imagine a failing switch inside the driver's door that gets wet in the rain (rain leaking past the window gasket), makes contact, and unlocks the doors and rolls the windows down. As we know, NOT opening the door within a few seconds causes the locks to re-lock. Leaving the windows down. If your switch ISN'T failing, maybe it's time to carry your fob in a silvered-mylar bag like you should have your passport in (aka Faraday cage). Good luck!
New 2017 Odyssey with just over 3,000 miles. Very dry Leadville, CO - no rain - has happened twice so far since having owned for just over a month. Reading this thread having looked for an explanation for my windows being down when I locked and left the car with them fully up. No, not a FOB unlock button being inadvertently pressed. The “fixes” some have offered of boxing, covering, or even opening the remote and disabling it are in my thinking false hope. Yes, this is an intended “feature” by Honda but the ECU (Electronic Control Unit or car’s computer) would appear to have a glitch or bug where something - yet unknown - activates this “feature” unbeknownst to the owner. The obvious answer would be for Honda to provide a line of code in the ECU firmware that would allow owners to disable this “feature” which most of us don’t want as the risk of water damage or theft from the windows going down on their own greatly outweighs any perceived benefit. Doing a recall could very well open up Honda to liability so they remain silent about it. Silent year after year and never revising the ECU code as that too would cost them money tracking down the bug. My solution? Although the Odyssey is very new I’m selling and looking at replacing it with a Sienna. All windows open without my knowing is a deal breaker. Honda’s once stellar reputation has taken a grave hit to my opinion of their lack of quality control.
Honda will not acknowledge that there is any problem or design flaw. Anybody willing to start a class action lawsuit?
Well Honda DO seem to have made a change, but not a helpful one just driven home and found the Honda HRV (2016) standing on the drive with all windows and roof open. Having Googled my way here I went outside and tried it. Sure enough two presses then hold of the unlock button opened it up, but, two presses then hold on the lock button caused it to close again. I think the trigger to it opening in this case may have been an exceedingly high internal temperature. I'm going to try a aluminium foil sleeve for the fob.
On my 2017 Honda Civic (it has happened once already with all windows done) I have activated the system when I can walk away from the car and the doors auto lock when I am a few metres away. Does the problem happen when you manually lock car and also when on auto lock? Does anyone have an opinion?
I found it happens automatically if anything causes the ECU to reset, You'll discover it has if when you switch on ALL of the lights an the dashboard come on for a few seconds, then it shuts down. Starts normally the next time you press start. In the last instance it was a nearby lightning strike, it also caused a smart tv, a microwave and a bedside clock to reset. The nearest fob was in a metal box and the other was 3 miles away. From the bedside clock I had a precise time for when it happened. When we used to get random resets on photocopiers we called the Alberts, All Lights But Tilt.
This just happened to me THIS weekend with my 2018 Honda Accord! I am glad that I found this blog!
This just happened to me today with my 2018 Honda Odyssey. I parked in front of Dairy Queen and when I came back outside, all of my windows were down. I'd been shopping and had a lot of bags in my car, but luckily nothing was stolen. I had my fob in my pocket, but I really don't think it triggered this. This is the 2nd time this has happened and I've owned the car about 6 months. I drove a 2010 Odyssey for 8 years and never had this happen. I live in south Florida and have noticed that a lot of these posts are from people in Florida. I wonder if there is something about the heat/humidity/weather that is somehow triggering something in the electrical system to make this happen. I'm very concerned.
It happened to me a few days ago. When i pressed the start button all of the dash lights came on then went out a few at a time finally the car shut down. Next press on start it was OK. I'm sure that what I saw was the ECU re-booting. That evening I realised our smart TV had done a reset. I asked my wife if there had been a thunderstorm when I was out. There had, she had to reset the time on the microwave and a bedside clock was showing the time since it had restarted. So I came to the conclusion that it was caused by a lightning strike in the vicinity. That would fit in with your thoughts about Florida. Thunderstorms aren't that common here so I'm a little less perturbed as I'll know to check the car, but it seems to me that the manufacturers are in denial about the problem.
This happened to me today in my 2013 Honda Accord after parking and locking it before going into my office. When I returned 4 hours later, all windows were down and the sunroof was open. It had rained, but the opening must have happened after the rain stopped because the inside was not wet. No items were missing but I was totally freaked out, thinking that someone else may have overidden the the system and could get into my car. I rarely use my fob manually, It stays in my purse so I know I didn't press and hold the unlock button, and even if I had, the roof would not have opened. Very puzzled and surprised to hear that it's been happening for years with no attention from Honda. Time for a different make!
This just happened to my 2018 Honda pilot EX AWD, I parked the car at the economy parking lot and left for almost 3 days and came back noticing all 4 windows half open. after going through the post, it made me feel better in a sense that this is not just happening to me. Honda should work to resolve this issue.
I have owned my 2018 CRV almost two months and it has now happened four times, twice today! The day is sunny without a cloud in the sky so forget about it happening only when it rains. I don't think our fob was being pressed in any way, but even if it had, it is a very bad feature and needs to be removed by Honda. If I have to continue dealing with this, I will buy my next car from Toyota. In my opinion, it is not only a bad feature but a glitch somewhere in the electronic system.
OMG!!!! I can hardly believe what I am hearing.I just bought a new 2018 Honda cr-v and I am having the same problem.Windows and sunroof opened..and I didnt open them.Scared to even drive it now..and I love this car other than this crazy issue.Taking it to the dealer tomorrow!
My husband went outside this morning after night of downpours to find the front windows and roof of my 2011 Lincoln MKZ were open all night. Immediately he assumed that I left them opened. I thought that I was losing my mind. Heck of a way to find out about this feature. Too late! Thank you.
I was told by the dealership that almost all cars have this feature.It is supposed to be to get the heat out of your car.He says to remove the fob from other keys on key ring.Place in a small box by itself so that it doesnt get jarred around.I did and it hasn't happened since.A minor inconvenience on my part.I found a small dentalguard holder with small holes in it.Placed the fob inside,then put a small ring on it and attached a loop to hang it on my belt loop.
im thinking maybe some automatic garage door openers or some other remote controlled devices have RF getting into the system. maybe even cell phones. might be worth looking into??
I have a brand new CRV. I went into the doctors office and when I came out all my windows were open. During Florence I got up to find all my windows all the way down with my car flooded by the heavy rain. The dealership stated that it was my fault because I had my keys in my pocket. Duh, where should I put my keys? I was told that I needed a FOB cover. Nowhere in the manual does it address this made-up feature. Now my brand new CRV smells like a wet dog rug.
Was the rain accompanied by an electrical storm. There was a lightning strike about 400 feet from our HRV, and the roof opened and all ff the windows rolled down, the fobs were both well out of range at the time. When I powered up the car every single light on the dash came on then they went out one by one and the car shut down. I powered it up again and it started normally. As a former IT service manager I'm sure what I saw was the EGU re-initialising.
I just had this happen on my 2018 Honda Accord which I've only had for a month or so and I cried. It was pouring buckets outside and I didn't notice all my windows AND my sunroof were open. I went to Lowes and bought a wet vac, micro towels, and damp rid and spent the next several hours trying to suck up all the water and drying everything. I then put 6 or so fans blowing on the seats with the doors and windows open (in my garage) for two nights. Now I have a detail company coming out to run an ozone machine to make sure to kill any mold spores that might be growing. And yes Honda told me this "feature" can't be turned off. I'm going to do what another person in these posts suggested and start carrying the fob in a hearing aid box, (or some other small box)…. Honda please allow us to disable this ridiculous "feature"!
I totally understand! I have been following this post ever since this happened to my brand new CRV purchased about 3 months ago. It was less than a month old when the exact same thing happened to me. We did exactly as you did: New shop vac, fans blowing on front & back seats for 3 days, running the engine with the heater on. As you noted the leather seats were our biggest concern. The mold issue! Our dealer only said he was sorry this happened to us! The most upsetting part to us was the fact that this feature cannot be disabled, the dealer does not tell you about it & there is nothing in the manual telling you about this feature either! There must have been 2 inches of water in my CRV. EVERYTHING was soaked! As of today, the vehicle seems to be ok. Good luck with your vehicle! This has been going on for years! They need to have a way to disable it if you don’t want it!
I absolutely hate this feature of the CRV.I am constantly putting my fob in some kind of holder (separate from my other keys) then going over to my car,with the fob five or more feet away.Just to make sure it is locked.You don't dare hit the lock button.If you do,all of your windows roll down,moonroof opened and car totally unlocked.Dumbest feature in the world.If I want it locked,I should be able to lock it myself.This silly ,barely audible beep two times is uncalled for.My hubby is hard of hearing and he can't even hear it.
After researching on what to do about my windows and sunroof being opened without my doing seemingly nothing,I was told to get a keyfob holder.Great idea????Not so quick. A keyfob holder is nothing more than a colorful little doodad to make your fob more appealing. You can still hit the buttons by mistake and open all of you windows, The answer,I found is a nice little faraday bag. It will not only hold your fob,but protect it from hitting to buttons accidently..If put in the bag correctly,you can hammer away on it and the car will NOT activate anything.When you want to activate,just simply put it in the other pocket in the bag.Small enough to put in your pocket.Many have a little ring on them to attach other keys,etc.Very inexpensive.Works on all models of cars with the same issue.It also blocks signals that thieves use to steal your car.
Same problem...2018 Civic Happened twice so far. Positive the unlock button wasn't accidentally pressed. Called Honda, they say there is nothing they can do
They are probably right, if the controller is being disrupted by electromagnetic interference, (say an atmospheric discharge, lightning strike in the vicinity) it needs a radical redesign, possibly to military standards, to harden the design against EMP. The circuits are performing as though they have just been powered up for the first time, default state everything open. It's important however to keep making noises about this otherwise they'll go on using the same design.
If Honda can't or won't do anything about it, if possible, we need someone who can figure out an on/off switch for the fuses controlling the power windows/sunroof. .....???, just an idea.
I did find out that it is an option that Honda don't advertise much. I tried holding down the unlock button on my 2005 Honda Accord and the windows come down. Then I tried it on my 2016 Mustang GT and the Windows also came down. The problem is the sensitivity of the newer Remotes.
I went to a retro game store and bought two Gameboy Advance game holders from a 1.00 bin. (They are shaped like a tiny Gameboy advance. I then used my soldering iron to melt the small ribbed plastic on the inside that holds the game cartridge in place. My key fobs fit perfectly inside of them and they have a small snap that allows me to easily take the fob out if I need it. Since I have my car set to lock and auto lock, I never use the buttons on the fob anyway. So far my car has not done this again, but I am concerned about ones that have said that they think it may have been activated by something else, like lightning. If someone could figure out a way to disable it, I would definitely do it.
I fixed the problem. traded it for a chevy Silverado... never been happier...
I tried to get information from Honda about how to disable the moon roof, so if/when it opens by itself, so at least water wouldn’t come through the roof. On October 2, 2018, I called 800-999-1009, originally talked with Antonio G, who passed me on to his supervisor, didn’t get her name, but she still insisted I was pushing the buttons on the remote to open the windows and moon roof. That was never the case. I had to call that number a few times before it finally went through to Honda. I doubt that covering the fob with rfid protector wouldn’t work as (it seems to me) that lightning is causing the windows to open by themselves. Besides, covering the fob with a rfid protector would defeat the purpose of the fob; be like using a key if you have to take the fob out of the rfid protector each time you use your vehicle. I think John Williams hit the nail on the head in his comment on November 29, 2018. "They are probably right, if the controller is being disrupted by electromagnetic interference, (say an atmospheric discharge, lightning strike in the vicinity) it needs a radical redesign, possibly to military standards, to harden the design against EMP. The circuits are performing as though they have just been powered up for the first time, default state everything open. It's important however to keep making noises about this otherwise they'll go on using the same design."
My 2018 Honda has less than 1000 miles on it. Yesterday I left my volunteer job and found all 4 windows open. One all the way open and others about 1/2 open. We have a lot of homeless in the area and I was lucky my contents were not disturbed.
BCPilot2018 answered 5 years ago
1) Thank you to all those who have posted physical solutions for your FOB to try and stop this "feature" from happening. 2) I just read the entire board.. and I can see that Honda has decided that integrity and standing behind its products are not that the top of their priority list. 3) Has anyone ever heard of ANYBODY having success in their complaints against Honda with this? What will it take for Honda to do something? Has there ever been any lawsuit regarding this? Is Lemon Law the best option? Or consumer matters?
I have pulled the fuses from the fusebox. I can't roll down my windows anymore, at least now my car won't get soaked or pilfered. Thank You Honda!
alanthonyk answered 5 years ago
I have a 2014 Honda Accord. I had the same thing happen to me when I first brought the car. To all you owners that just brought y'all car, I took my car back to the dealership and had them to detail my car for free. And yes still to this day Honda is acting like they don't know anything about this issue. I'm now having an issue with the car not wanting to start. I have the push button starter. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? My car has about 70,000 miles.
Everyone is not crazy with these haunted window openings, nor did they lower them accidentally with their own car remotes. This also just happened to my friends brand new 2018 Honda Civic SE. His windows dropped all the way down in the night while parked at his house outside in his driveway, on one of the worst storms of the year, with heavy winds and rain. His car was sopping wet all the way through by the morning. There is nothing in the car manual that advises that this window lowering is even possible. It did not happen with his remote, we know that. The car was locked, windows up and keys inside the house on the table. Who, how, why, then did all the windows drop? According to Honda this is impossible by any other person or means. I have read from other peoples blogs and i think that a class action is needed. Honda so far are reluctant to take any responsibility, but have agreed to give the car a full diagnostic. They won't find anything and from what I've read by other posts and Honda can't turn this feature off. The big question is how and who lowered the windows. Possibly another Honda owner with his remote? Push lock, lock again and push and hold a third time until the windows are lowered to desired opening. This is not what the dealer thought. They actually thought it was using the unlock button. I don't believe someone with their remote would ever use this feature in the winter, not in Canada. I think that rules out accidental opening with the common frequency. That does not rule out malicious damage by others, who know that this feature will be initiated with their remote device. That is the most likely scenario. Someone has a Honda or some other car remote that works on the same frequency or car window code. Possibly they are just innocently unlocking their car and are within ear shot. By the way, you can lower these windows from hundreds of feet away. On my own car, not a Honda, i hit unlock once for drivers door, second time to open the other doors, and a third time for good measure. If that sequence would drop the windows of a nearby Honda, they have a serious problem. At the Honda dealership yesterday we asked about the trade in value of this brand new 2018 Civic SE with less than 14k km. Today it is only worth about $16k towards the purchase of a new Honda, when he just paid almost $27k, less than four months ago. Maybe even less now, once they discover that this car has been underwater for a day. In flood zones, insurance companies would totally write off a car that has been submerged in water for any length of time. That is a more than a $10k hit, more than a third of its value in four months. Forget that idea then. What is called for, is a Class Action against Honda. I'm no lawyer, but restitution is needed to everyone who has suffered damages. Unfortunately you may not see the long term damage of; mold, mildew, electrical problems, smells, for some years to come, because of the wetness, but your Honda will be worth less, much less. Honda owners unite, and put the squeeze on Honda to get your restitution and prevent this from continuing. Only a collective mass coalition will fix this. This was not your fault, don't blame yourself or think that the coins in your purse made contact in a certain way. Continue blogging with your bad experiences.
After diagnostic testing by a Honda dealer there appears to be no errors with the DTC codes. The service manager's best advice is to remove the FOB's batteries at night to be sure that the FOB is not to blame and to keep your car in the garage. This is not always possible. We have not tried that as of yet, but it has been three weeks since the one occurence and the car was flooded out from the wind and rain. Honda would then think that, it was indeed the owners own accidental doing, by innocently pushing the unlock FOB three times and holding it down. Definitely not the case. Honda Canada has suggested that we could have the interior of the Civic professionally cleaned to avoid; future smells, premature rusting, mold and or mildew. They are not willing to pay for that. Too small of an insurance claim, with a $500 deductible, but that remains to be seen in years to come. Since we can not duplicate this mysterious window dropping, Honda has put the onus on us, to prove that this was a mysterious window drop caused by another means. Someone has suggested static lightning as the cause. Is that even plausible? I still maintain that someone in the neighbourhood or vicinity is inadvertently opening the Honda windows, when they open their own cars, with their own FOBs. Click once, click twice and then click a third time for good measure. If the frequency is the same as to what the Honda is listening for, maybe that is the culprit. The range of this feature is hundreds of feet, not just 5'. We'll have to do more testing to the distance that our FOB will do this Florida window cool down drop. It is a silly feature anyways and apparently cannot be disengaged. I think that we will have to solicit help from the neighbours and have them test their FOBs against our Honda. We are open to any other suggestions. Like others have complained before for many years, there is no way the signal came by accidentally pushing buttons on this cars FOB. Don't be fooled into thinking that you are at fault. Honda needs to have a major recall of millions of cars or we need to start a class action. Continue your posting your bad experiences.
We've fitted a thing called a Car Genie to the diagnostic port. When it goes cold at night it will sometimes send us an SMS message to warn that the battery is low. Next morning the battery is fine. Looking at specifications I can see that standing outside in a Canadian Winter the electrical system will be working outside of its design parameters, so that is Honda's get out, they aren't responsible for anything that happens if used outside the acceptable working conditions, Putting a battery "drop tester" across the battery terminals will sometimes trigger the same effect. It would appear that when the car thinks it has a dying battery it takes the precaution of opening it up while there's still enough "juice". My problem has a similar outcome, a lightning strike in close proximity presents an electrostatic field in which the wiring to the ECU has the same voltage on both pos and neg wires, simulating no battery which causes it to reboot when power returns. It's the EMP feared by the military as a means of disabling electrically controlled battlefield equipment. The only do it yourself fix would be to put a switch in the wires to the window and roof motors. At this time Honda's terms and conditions put the problem as being outside the intended operating conditions, I assume they won't be the only manufacturer with this problem. It's no good doing anything to the fob the problem is in the ECU,'s programming. As long as the vehicle can be opened by the key there's no need for the function, opening the door windows and roof as you approach on a hot day makes sod all difference, as I discovered with a Rav 4 in Namibia last week. Te fastest way to cool a car is to turn on the fan with the doors open, and shift some air through it.
Here is another thread going although there is no solution. But just for reference https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Discussion-t72368_ds816291
Hello BCPilot2018 - I believe the answer is hidden behind the equation called "Follow the Money" as long as Honda and other car companies can get away with screwing their customers with this "feature" and not offering a shut it off option then the will stand firm behind the "it is a feature that can't be changed" crap. The day some high powered product liability law firms takes notice is the day things will begin to change because then the cost of not fixing it/offering an option to turn it off will become prohibitive. When the cost of not addressing the problem become too high, solutions will 'magically apppear.' On some of the Lexus boards there appears to be instances of Lexus dealers being able to disable this feature - I'm going to guess that is because some Lexus customers have deep enough pockets to take Lexus to the mat and Lexus doesn't want the bad PR that would come from those lawsuits. Individuals who have been harmed by this "feature" and those of us who don't want to risk being harmed by it need a class action lawsuit.
My dealership said it is not possible to disable that open all windows feature. Surely some techie person with access to the circuitry could find one wire to disconnect. Anyway, after getting a deluge of snow on top of me when i got into my '18 Honda Ridgeline, I have located a crab-claw elastic band ( about 5/8 x 7/8 diameter ) and will bridge the unlock button with a piece of heavy credit card or similar stock held in place with the elastic. If I see a suitable key-fob case, I will buy it.
This just started happening to my Odyssey after 5 years. Sounds like it's common and there's no solution. Does putting the LOCK on the windows help, possibly? I switched to my spare key fob to see if that helps. I was thinking possibly the fob being dirty or build-up over time might be causing this ghost mode. I'm thinking the way it's designed could easily get grime or could be pushed under the surface, despite not touching it, causing the "nearness" to the car to activate this feature. Thoughts?
Timmytanker answered 5 years ago
This just happened to me today. 2006 Accord, about 170,000 miles. Of course it was raining today. Both my spares were accounted for and I was at work in my work truck (no where near the Accord) with my the key fob miles away. I'm well out of warranty, so I'm going to do some of my own digging before I go to the dealership on it.
MiTePython answered 5 years ago
People... People please... The comments plastered through this board are needlessly spreading anxiety and false issues. EVERY single one of you that have experienced this are stating opinions like they are hard evidence and fact. I promise you there are only 3 ways for this to happen. KEEP reading. - Your car does not have ghosts - Lightning CANNOT cause the windows to go down - Your neighbor who owns another Honda, even the exact same year and model, cannot accidentally or on purpose make your windows go down. * Every FOB has a unique identity that must be programmed to your car from the car. Unless you have let someone program a FOB to your vehicle (requires ignition key) it is not possible for another key FOB to access your car. - Some hacker\thief did not roll down your windows * It takes sophisticated equipment and knowledge to intercept wireless key FOB transmissions. If a hacker or thief did this, your car would be gone. It is not worth the amount of time it would take sitting near your vehicle waiting for you to press the button so the transmission could be intercepted, just to put the windows down. I think those were the things mentioned the most in this thread. Now here are 3 ways this CAN happen. 1.) 95% of you are in this category. The FOB buttons were pushed accidentally in any number ways to make the windows go down. Whether you pocket carry, purse carry, boot carry, belt chain carry, carry on your head, in your hand, in your cheek, or in your anus, you have inadvertently triggered the exact combination of button presses that triggers the windows rolling down. Its OK. Stuff happens. Take a deep breath, and try harder next time. 2.) 4.9% of you are here. Your key FOB is worn out or broken. Hey, nothing lasts forever. Its even possible for this to happen to a brand new FOB. The button sticks a little, or is stuck halfway down and you dont realize it. A slight bump or agitation can trigger the button press with or without you realizing it. Again, its OK. Take a deep breath. Get a new FOB and program it and move on with your life. 3.)In reality, a handful of people are here. Seriously, this is not you. There is a better chance of me running into Olaf the snowman on my next trip to the outer banks than there is for this to happen to you. It is however possible. The door lock mechanism on the drivers side door can trigger the windows to go down on many models with this feature. That mechanism CAN be broken, or out of adjustment. The grounding circuit to this mechanism can be damaged, broken, or missing. If you actually have this problem, your windows would likely always go down. Not once. Not once every 3 months. But often. No worries because I would bet the odds that you DO NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. I am sure I missed addressing a few of you crazies. But this should help the majority of people with a problem. If you still dont believe me, pop open those key FOBs, take out the battery, and use your car the way you normally do (minus the key FOB since it doest work without the battery). Please feel free to contact me if you have the batteries out of your key FOBs and this is still happening. If you have lost a key FOB, do the programming procedure on your car, and dont enter any FOBs in when you get to that step. It will clear out all FOBs. Even better than removing the batteries. There should be no recall for this. It is not a driver safety issue. The car wont explode, or shut, or break down. THIS FEATURE IS BY DESIGN!!!!!! Thanks!
We had a heavy rainstorm yesterday. My wife ran out to the car to go to the store and behold, all of her windows were down. The cloth interior is being destroyed. Her car is a 2018 CRV. We purchased the recommended key fobs but it still does it. The problem is real and is not the fault of the driver/owner.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I took out the fuses for the windows, now I am certain the windows won't roll down by themselves. Yes the problem is real....no ghosts. The problem is with Honda, period. A while ago, my neighbour walked by my 2018 Civic and he heard the doors lock by themselves. He had in his pocket his car keys (fob) for a Kia Sorento. My wife and I were away at that moment.
To MiTePython...to bad you are 99% wrong...the door lock is most likely the issue in most cases. Several squirts of WD40 in the driver’s side lock stopped the problem for me, which was happening when the fob was sitting in a nightstand drawer. I suspect that it is simply an electrical problem and nothing more. I found out from a car audio guy, who has seen this problem often enough that it took him about 10 seconds to diagnose. I still got rid of the Odessey. Honda sucks. By the way, MiTePython you might want to be a little more humble and listen for a change.
Honda has a built in, un-alterable function wherein if you push the unlock button deliberately OR accidentally, all the windows will lower, and the sun-roof will open fully (if held long enough). You better hope that it is not raining or snowing !!! I ended up taking a 35 mm film canister, sanding the bottom off it, and keep my remote inserted into the "tube" whenever it is in my pocket. NO MORE "Pocket Dialing" !!!
Found the site today. 2011 Accord. Fob doesn't work to unlock/lock/panic/or trunk. The battery in it is dead. This morning, I used the key (part of the fob) to open/unlock the drivers door, as I do and have done every day several times per day for the past 4 years. This time, however, when I turned the key clockwise (to unlock the drivers door) the windows and sunroof opened until I turned the key back to the vertical position (key is up and down). Then, I turned the key clockwise again, and the windows and sunroof opened further and kept going until I turned the key back to vertical. Very strange this started happening.
To MiTePython: Thank you for providing a bit of enlightenment on how FOBs pair to our vehicles. Additionally your comments on hacking FOB seem reasonable - intercepting the signal to simply to prank someone is indeed a stretch. If someone is going to through the effort and expense then once they get the ‘keys’ they’re going to grab the car. Additionally, I’d like to thank you for confirming the validity of the concerns of the many of the forum’s participants and while I don’t think that was your intent it is the logical conclusion of your argument. Allow me to explain. You state “1.)…The FOB buttons were pushed accidentally in any number ways to make the windows go down. Whether you pocket carry, purse carry, boot carry, belt chain carry, carry on your head, in your hand, in your cheek, or in your anus, you have inadvertently triggered the exact combination of button presses that triggers the windows rolling down…” You make it perfectly clear that no matter how or where we carry or keep the FOB it is subject to being accidentally triggered into sending the signal to open the windows. No matter how careful we are, the FOB’s flawed implementation (of what could be a good feature) condemns hard working consumers to have their most expensive (or second most expensive) purchase trashed by the elements. What was the auto industry thinking when they designed the FOB? I can personally confirm that people have been putting keys (house, car, post office box) in their pockets and purses for at least the past 60 years. (I’m sure that research can confirm much longer than that but I’m speaking from personal knowledge.) And the geniuses in the auto industry came up with a new age key that you can’t put anywhere without risking unintentionally opening the windows. I suspect that a design/implantation that conflicts with know human behavior patterns is a somewhat less than brilliant implementation, While your intelligence and hard work may provide you with sufficient wealth that you can be flip about needless damage to your vehicle, many Americans aren't in a position to be so flip. Our budgets, family commitments, and incomes don’t afford us the luxury of causally accepting needless damage to our hard earned properly. We don’t have an extra car or two hanging around that we can just grab while the soaked car gets dried out . So for many on this forum your posting has some elements that are, shall I say, “in rather poor form.” You continue: “Your key FOB is worn out or broken…. Its even possible for this to happen to a brand new FOB. The button sticks a little, or is stuck halfway down and you dont realize it. A slight bump or agitation can trigger the button press with or without you realizing it….” Interesting, it makes sense. This is my 1st car that starts with a FOB and not an old fashioned key. (OK, I lead a sheltered life and drive cars until they die.) At first I thought the FOB was pretty neat – now I long for a good old fashioned key that doesn’t put my car at risk. I received no disclaimer, warning, and option for a standard key access/start instead. I can’t speak for anyone else but I assure you the dealer never looked at my FOB when I reported the opened windows and moon roof (never offered to test the FOB.) They claimed they never heard of this problem! They said, we’ll have to check into it. When they got back to me they told me this was a ‘Feature’ and I was stuck with it. Given consumers have been complaining about this for a decade, it seem hard believe any dealership is oblivious the issue. If my experience it typical, consumers are justified in being angry – car dealerships are screwing us with a wink wink nod nod, blaming us for putting our keys in pockets or purses while knowing all along that this feature is a problem and will ultimately destroy some cars and force some consumers to buy another car before they planned (which of benefits/enriches them at the expense of the consumer.) The worst part is that this appears to be a universal problem - consumers of virtually every make of car have suffered property damage from this ‘Feature’ for at least a decade. How many millions (tens of millions?) of dollars do consumers have to eat before the auto industry is held liable and provides a disable option for a ‘feature’ which has a history of contributing to unintended property damage? People are justified in being angry and wanting an actual solution!
2018 Honda pilot, I had this issue while shopping at Walmart I came back to all windows down, all inside lights on and sunroof open like someone had to slide the cover back and sunroof was open. I was freaked out!!! Only thing was that Friday I had oil change at Honda but I doubt pil change could have caused this, oh even my hazard lights were on!!!! I dont want to call dealership cause I will sound crazy!!!
alanthonyk answered 5 years ago
@GuruSYL5L what make you think that you are a genius? Is it because you work for Honda! You are the idiot just like the rest of you'll that think people are holding the buttons on the fob or for some reason our handbags, pockets or dressors than grew fingers to press on the fob. Mannnnn get the hell out of here. If it didn't happen to you, why are you on here anyways!!!
it's a symptom of the ECUs losing power supply for a few milliseconds. It would seem to be caused by, - a nearby lightning strike (induces the same voltage in all wires, ecu sees zero volts), - water ingress causing momentary short circuits, - failing battery, when we called out AA Home Start it happened as soon as he connected his jump leads to the terminals of the dead battery. When I said about it being a mystery he said they see it all the time. The program code which opens them should be rewritten to close the automatically if the supply is restored!
After reading this I'm now know and am certain that my 2018 Honda Accord is NOT a transformer that just wanted air. My husband and I were soooo confused. Lol good to know tho.
19brandon83 answered 5 years ago
2016 honda pilot awd. Windows down 3-4 inches all the same. Didnt do it on purpose but keys were in pocket and wrestling with kids. I did just have windows tinted few days before. Thevwindows were on window lock because not suppose to roll down for 3 days. I went to check on car all windows down i was like wtf. I turned car on window locks on, turned it off and rolled up windows. Its suppose to rain tonight so im hoping they dont go down. I will leave keys sonewhere safe so they dont get pushed. Will let u know how it works out.
19brandon83 answered 5 years ago
Didnt go down overnight, prob just got pushed when playing. Lesson learned.
If it happens when there are no fobs within operating range you'll know it wasn't you accidentally pressing the buttons. Get a metal box with a lid to drop the keys in when you come indoors, will prevent accidentally triggering it whilst handling your keys and will also prevent snoopers pickng up the transmission from your fob and using a range extender to relay them back to the car.
VeryConcerned answered 5 years ago
Dear MiTePython - If this feature is a FEATURE BY DESIGN as you state, why isn't it in the owners manual and why isn't it covered by the warranty. Why is it that after YEARS of complaints that I read online about this 'feature' and damage the car owners have incurred due to this occurring hasn't Honda put the instructions to this FEATURE in their manual. My guess would be that this feature isn't perfected and does malfunction some times. If they felt confident they would add it to their manual and cover under warranty. But instead, they allow years of consumer complaints without coming out with a clear statement from Honda. Why is it that you, whoever you are, have to 'explain' this feature to the masses. Why isn't it Honda that explains this feature to the masses. This happened to me with my 2019 Honda Accord Hybrid yesterday. Thank goodness when we went to the dealer they acknowledged that they hear of this happening all the time. Folks don't know about it and they do not know why Honda doesn't add info in their manual. The new car salesman can only inform of so much in short period and even if they do mention it, you should be able to read about it in the manual because you will never remember everything told to you about your new car during the buy process. So, don't trash the masses for not knowing about it. If you work for Honda, please suggest they add the info to manual and cover under warranty so all us dummies can properly learn how to use this 'feature by design. .
My big concern with this isn't the discovery of an undocumented "feature" but the discovery that it's effects can be triggered by other events. If you disconnect the battery for long enough, when you re connect it all doors unlock all windows and roof open. It's the default state for a car that's just been assembled. Reading other peoples reports and from my own observations I've come to the conclusion that, any temporary lowering of the battery voltage may trigger it. Replacing my three year old battery seems to have cured it for now. Possible triggers appear to be , A nearby lightning strike - imposes the same voltage on everything, therefore no potential difference across the circuits, ie Dead. Very high humidity - causing leakage current to flow through door sensors etc. High current drain via certain components. - Central locking has always been open to this attack, Shorting the starter motor terminals to the body was a favourite trick of AA patrolmen. I think the reason Honda seem to know nothing about this is it's not their design, it's embodied in the chips that they buy in, probably designed by Bosch. Securing a car against its accidental triggering probably means using an external key switch to disable some circuits, ig, roof and doorlock motors. So no keyless entry once locked with a key. The changes would not be major but the would involve re-routing wires within the harness. I would envisage power or return wiring to left hand and right hand doors being taken from separate fuses through separate contacts on a master switch, perhaps the key switch in the drivers door. Then deadlocking with the key would prevent them being able to open auntil the key was used to unlock. Or simply tell the chip manufacturer to cut it from the chips in the first place.
The problem is there's a glitch in the remote. I ended up having to get another FOB and that has worked. The dealership doesn't want to tell you that there's a problem and even some will try to convince you that it is an added option to the car. My new 2018 CRV started opening the windows within a few days do saying that the battery is bad is not true. The truth be known is that it is a defect in the design of the FOB and key.
I think there are two problems giving the same result, as ours has done it with the two fobs 1 and 120 miles away from the car at the time. I was not best pleased at having to go out in a torrential downpour and close them from the switches inside the car. Fortunately with the windows down I was able to get in without a fob.
Got up one morning after a thunder storm. My windows and moon roof were open. I got on my security camera, 10;30 pm I saw lighting flash. My window came down, moon roof open and all the interior light came on. My key were in the back room far away from the car.
This is exactly what I thought was happening. My son, who works on the international help desk for Jaguar Land-Rover, says that virtually all ECUs have a defined start up condition. What is happening is that the lightning strike imposes a very high induced voltage on everything around. If you raise the voltage on the supply and return wires to an ECU it does it no harm, as both wires being at the same voltage is the same as no voltage (it's the difference that matters). When the lightning strikes the ECUs go to their default state, which for the one that does the windows and doors is everything unlocked and open. Think about it. you assemble a car and fit a battery, everything springs into life, you don't want it closed up and deadlocked! The difficulty is persuading the dealers to understand this, as until they do it won't get kicked back up the chain to the designers. And it's probably the designers at Bosch who decide that this is the way the chip should work.! I've tried telling Honda, they say tell the dealer who will escalate it. I've tried that path, their senior technician listens and s says "Uh". Total lack of comprehension, cant see where you fit the spanner!
Hello John, Thanks so much for your insights. While double casing our FOB's ('backward' soft over the FOB and then enclosing in a firmer leather zippered case) has prevented any recurrence of accidental triggering on our part, it effectively makes the FOB's optional features inaccessible making it a proximity entrance/starting device. However, induced voltages or battery issues are another issue and since the CRV is our road trip car, I'm thinking I'm going to give serious consideration to pulling window/moon roof fuses when parked outside when stormy weather is on the horizon... Thanks again.
Very Concerned Just a quick FYI - while you might not find info on the click sequence to activate the the open windows feature in the 'manual' you got with the car, the dealer probably didn't tell you that that isn't the real manual (didn't tell us anyway.) While reading the abridged manual after having the window problem I saw something about ordering the full manual. The full manual for our 2018 CRV runs 673 pages, the warranty another 39 pages, and the navigation manual 140. Anyway page 165 of the full manual does actually talk about the opening the window and moon roof from the remote. But of course, it was only after having the window problem that I found the info on getting the real manual... The real manual is thick enough to give you second thoughts about buying a new car....
This has gone on long enough to see that the problem isn't with people not knowing about the remote opening facility. It's the number of occasions that there have been where the action has been triggered when the remote fobs are far enough away from the vehicle not to have been the trigger. As these seem to happen in storms of one kind or another the possible source of the triggering seems to be a choice from - electrical interference from electrical discharge (lightning) - ingress of rain or melting snow to the drivers door - other disturbance to the car's electrical system The fact that the owners didn't know about the action of the fob is just a convenient way for dealers to avoid having to investigate a problem which they suspect is beyond their competence to solve. If only Honda and others would accept that it's a problem (a potentially very expensive one) there could be lots of information available to fix it. The potential cost of one of these incidence is horrendous, an owner leaves the car on an airport car park whilst travelling, the roof opens during a thunder storm and stays open for 10 days or so in the rainy season, the owner returns to a car full of water. Very costly!
It is nice to know I am not crazy. I have a 2016 Honda Accord. There was a significant amount of lightening where I was tonight getting gas. I went in to go to the restroom and came back to find all of my windows down and sunroof open with my purse sitting right there. Thank god no one stole it. I know for a fact that I did not hold the unlock button down for a long period of time. This is the fourth time it had happened since we got the car new. It is very frustrating. I absolutely want to turn the feature off. It is ridiculous that it can’t be.
VeryConcerned answered 5 years ago
John or anyone else, IF YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO REMOVE THE FUSE TO THE MOONROOF, LET US ALL KNOW. We have 2019 Honda Accord Hybrid and found the moonroof and windows open on a hot day (I do think I had accidently pressed the remote incorrectly as I walked into the house earlier in the day) BUT didn't know of that possibility because I hadn't purchased the LONG VERSION of the manual. I ALSO WANTED TO REMOVE THE FUSE FOR THE MOONROOF I NEVER USE and talked to the dealer about this situation. They said there is no way to 'remove the fuse' as it is all connected to everything else and they are not able to do that. IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS FIGURED A WAY TO DO IT PLEASE LET US ALL KNOW. I might be weary about trying to 'defuse' the rolling down of the windows for safety reasons, but I NEVER used the moonroof in any of eh cars we have ever bought (moonroofs are almost standard and you can't buy without) and find this whole thing a huge concern. Thanks.
I was shocked to find all of my windows on my NEW car open...This is the first time I have owned a Honda. I should have done more research.
Hello Guru1SQWM, You say you should have done more research. That really won't help because my research seems to indicate this it an industry wide problem, kind of like the airbag recall, it is everywhere. If you search by other companies names for windows opening by themselves you'll likely find the same problem everywhere from Audi thru Tesla and every company in between have reported this problem. For Audi problem shows up as far back as 2003-2004!. It appears to be industry wide. I suspect it is going to take a massive class action and/or government intervention to force the companies, their engineers and suppliers to fix it. In the mean time individual consumers continue to get the shaft. Yes I'm pissed as all heck as Honda but I'm not seeing any alternatives.
My brand new 2019 Honda Civic that will be 3 weeks old tomorrow just did the exact same thing. I called the dealership and spoke with someone in service. He said I had to have held down the unlock button for too long. I never touched the unlock button. My daughter was the one with the keys and wasn't anywhere near her vehicle. So that is total BS! After reading all these posts I now know this is an ongoing problem and has been for many years
Solution for me on a 2007 Honda Odyssey exl. The short answer: the driver multiplex control unit was replaced, that is the technical name but it is the driver window switch assembly. This assembly is where the receiver is for the key fob (transmitter). This was the only way I could find all 4 windows to roll down at the same time and stop at the same time so I figure give a new (used) switch a try. Something I did not think of trying until now. There is a small module on the underside of the switch assembly with one small phillips screw holding it in place. I think this is the receiver and could possibly be removed, reinstall the switch assembly without it to see if the issue goes away. It would be a quick and easy way to know if the windows still roll down on their own. I did remove this module on my old switch assembly and it is easy to do, with the screw out you just have to gently pry it out. It has only been a few days so I am not convinced just yet, time will tell. I purchased a used switch from a junk yard, takes about 10 minutes to replace and cost $50. New they are anywhere from $150 to $250. The trim panel pops out of the door, you will need to gently pry it up, I used a thin flat blade screwdriver. Then the switch assembly has 4 screws connecting it to the trim. You will have to program your key fobs to the new switch, takes about a min. All instructions can be found on youtube in various videos. Search for replacing window switch or multiplex and programming key fob. It seems Honda is pretty generic for programming these so I don't think it will matter what model it is. I did not read through every post but from what I did read most of the consensus seems to think the issue is with the key fob. I knew this was not my case but had to rule it out anyway. I also had one other issue that I did not see reported here, my locks would cycle lock / unlock on their own until the lock button on the door was pressed. The window multiplex / switch assembly has the window switches and lock button all in one unit so it made more sense that the one unit was causing both issues. Here is the process I used to troubleshoot. I didn't do this but would remove the module on the switch assembly and reinstall, I would probably do this first. 1 I have two key fobs, I tried using the old key fob until the issue returned. 2 I removed the batteries from both key fobs until the issue returned. 3 Disconnected the car battery for about 30 mins, I thought this fixed it but after a day or two the issue came back. I was using the key fobs again. 4 Ordered the multiplex unit, I had to find a junk yard that was not close to me and the unit was shipped. During this time the car battery died (was about 6 years old). Replaced the battery and again the issue went away but came back after a day or two. 5 Replaced the multiplex unit, programmed both key fobs. So far it has not come back and this is the longest it has worked properly, about 4 days now. I did not program the locks to automatically lock and unlock while driving, I wanted to wait a while to see if the problem comes back. If not then I will program to lock when out of park then unlock when back to park. Hopefully this will help a few of you out there.
It's interesting that your battery died during this problem. My theorising had led to me working out that opening all doors and windows is something that the controller is programmed to do when first connected to the battery, so anything that mimics not being connected will trigger it happening. Having a slowly dying battery is one cause, lightning strikes in the vicinity is another and water ingress to the drivers door panel has also appeared. I think the manufacturers know this, our Honda and several other models have had recalls to prevent water ingress to the drivers door. That takes care of one source, checking and replacing the battery is another but there's not a lot they can do about the lightning strikes (not strikes really just a slow leakage of charge will do) the module has to be open to electrical fields for the key fob to be detected. This probably requires a total re- engineering of the circuit involved. Key less entry a dodgy solution to a non existent problem!
I also thought the battery dying was interesting. However the problem still occurred with the new battery so I kind of ruled it out. Anything is possible but I cant see how an old or dying battery could cause this to happen, I would think it to be the opposite. If a certain voltage is not met then all of the windows will not roll down as if the key fob was used, but I have no idea how Honda programed this or its intended way of working beyond what we can see. Either way it is still a good idea to rule it out. The lightening strike is an interesting one, I would wonder if the circuit in the multiplex module is not robust enough and something shorted. That would also make me wonder if something else on the vehicle fried but has not shown up as an issue yet. The one thing I would like to see changed is to not allow the windows to roll down with the key fob, I have heard of other makes and models with similar issues to what I and others here have had, for me I am good with getting rid of it. I have had this feature on other vehicles and the only time I use it is to see if it actually works, hey cool it does roll the windows down!! I never use it again after that. Maybe some use this but I would bet that number is very low and would not sway their decision on purchasing a certain vehicle if it had this feature or not. I did not know of the recalls for the water getting in the doors. Do you or anyone else reading this know what the recall was for or what specifically was done fix the issue? Was the water related to the windows rolling down? What vehicle and year? Just to note, everything is still working good...for now O_O
When the battery weakens, its voltage will fall off rapidly under some loads, then slowly recover. My son who is an engineer at JLR reckoned that the controller for doors and windows would reinitialise itself if something depressed the voltage deep enough, and thinking about it we both came to the conclusion that a door controller would initialise with everything open, otherwise assembly workers would be getting locked in cars on the line. There are a number of factors working together, the problem with electrical fields (lightning) is that the door unit has to be open to them to perform keyless entry. The network of controllers and actuators which takes care of these things is based on a very simple open communication system developed by Bosch, unlike the network behind your computer it has little error protection, computers do sophisticated things like acknowledging a request, in your car a contoller repaetedly sends an instruction to turn on a light. If the actuator doesn't do it on the first instruction, well it probably will when it gets the next one! We had a computer network lashed up from this system in the early 80s, with no error checking or request and acknowledge protocol to get in the way it was blindingly fast but not particularly accurate, and it's speed that is the essential element in a cars control systems.
Mikeytee3333 answered 5 years ago
2018 pilot did it last night. Moonroof is broken (no power) so it stayed closed. All 4 windows were open. Just bought car last week. Damn.
I think I might have the answer after calling Honda national. I was directed to pg. 128 of the 2015 Honda Accord owners manual that says the following: " OPENING WINDOWS AND MOONROOF WITH THE REMOTE - To open press the unlock button twice within 10 seconds and hold it down for the second time. if the windows stop midway, repeat the procedure." I then did the following: 1. Lock the car, 2. Press the unlock button 2X holing it down the 2nd time, 3. The windows came down, pissing me off. Solution - Lock the car and do not press the unlock button at all.
Hello GuruK6YBB - you are correct about the "feature" that allows us to intentionally open the windows and moonroof. However, this "feature" can be accidentally activated and neither Honda nor other automobile makers provide a way to disable the feature. I stumbled across it after going to the garden center and bringing home plants, bags of mulch, and peat moss. Since I was in my gardening digs, I kept the FOB in my pocket, unloaded worked in the yard all afternoon. When I went to put the car in the garage that evening, the windows and roof were open. Odd, I thought and over dinner asked my wife about it (the only reason we have the moor roof is because it came with the car and don't plan to use it.) She looked at me like I was nuts - she didn't open them. That is when I started searching the 'net for car windows and roof opening all by themselves. That is when I got blank stares from Honda when I asked how to disable the function and told they would look into it. When they did get back to me the explanation was it was a feature, it couldn't be disabled, and your stuck with it. Honda's solution was to tell me just don't put your FOBs in a pocket or purse so it can't be accidentally triggered. (Should I hang my FOB from my nose? Or ear?) Now based on numerous forums I've visited and watched, I suspect accidentally pushing the buttons is just one vector causing this behavior - there may be lightening and/or battery related electrical issues that trigger the windows to open. However, my only experience with windows opening was when I was hauling the bags of mulch and peat moss, some which I can tell you did indeed rest on my hips or thighs as I unload and hauled around the yard and could they indeed have put pressure on the FOB. Bottom line, consumers need a way to disable this "feature" to protect their property from preventable damage. The lack of such an option has a lot of consumers mad as hell. Cars are EXPENSIVE. We can't vote with our feet and pocketbooks and say FU Honda, I'll buy brand x instead...because brand x has the same problem. That is why a massive class action suit or legislative interference is needed. Without one of those the consuming public cannot avoid the defective implementation of a feature which will and is inadvertently damaging our vehicles. Since the auto manufacturers know this is happening failing to fix it is, in my opinion, criminal.
I just wanted to report I am still fixed an no longer having issues, it has been about two months now. A few posts up I provided a solution that worked for me, the fix being replace the mulitplex unit (window switch unit on the driver door). My issue may have been slightly different from everyone else as I know for a fact my key fob was not the issue, pressing buttons on the key fob was not the issue. Either way I think the option to roll down the windows with the key fob is an idiotic idea and I wish it could be disabled. I know if I pull the multiplex module this will disable the feature but it also disables the auto locks. How many people actually use this feature? Are they not going to buy a car just because it does not have this feature? I doubt it.
Hello 07odyexl, Thanks for a wealth of information on what you did. Just one question about the replacement multiplex unit you installed - did you leave the receiver on the multiplex? Or did you remove the receiver prior to installing it?
GuruBVR2J you are welcome, I hope this information can help others. The receiver was left in place and is still in place now. It was installed as received from the junk yard. Without the receiver the windows and locks will not function with the key fob. I didn't think about it until after things were fixed but would try removing the receiver for troubleshooting purposes. That way if windows are still rolling down on their own it cannot be the key fob.
07odyexl. Thanks for the clarification. We double cased our fobs.Put one cushion style case on backward so the firmer back covers the function buttons and then encased in a firmer leather zippered case. Makes the fobs virtually worthless except for proximity unlock when you get to the car door but the windows haven't opened by themselves since. Thanks again. Happy New Year. May your windows stay shut except when you intentionally open them !
Mikeytee3333 answered 4 years ago
Can't disable it or you disable it it probably wouldn't start either. I'm pretty certain lightening will trigger it. It's happened to me 3 times and twice there was lightning, and the last time it also opened the tailgate as well.
Miketee3333 not sure if you are referring to my suggestion of disabling the receiver in the window switch assembly for troubleshooting purposes. You might be correct in other vehicles but on mine the vehicle will still function normally except the windows and locks will not function with the key fob. It is just something that is easy and takes 10 minutes to do to see if the issue of windows rolling down still occur. Unplug the connector to the receiver, drive around a few weeks, if the windows dont magically roll down, I would replace the window switch assembly. It is possible what I was experiencing might be different from everyone else...maybe. As of now my windows are still working like they should with the used window switch assembly installed on the drivers side. I actually forgot I was having issues until I saw Mike's post. Windows have never rolled down on their own since installation. The only thing i cannot do is program the lock, I want it to lock when out of park and unlock when in park but it will not program. I forget what other ways the locks work but I tried to program them every way possible and programing will not work. This did work with the original switch assembly so I would assume the multiplex module in the switch assembly has to be programed to the vehicle somehow. I don't care about this feature that much the locks will still lock on their own after 15mph (i think 15) they just don't unlock on their own, the unlock button has to be pushed. No big deal.
Following up on the answer posted by "07odyexl" 6 months before this - I too was shocked when on the afternoon of Sun 5/03/2020 my son asked me if I had gone outside, as all my windows and the sun-roof were wide-open. My car is a 2017 Honda EX-L V6 which was bought in March 2017. The key fobs are kept in a console table drawer just inside the entrance door to my condo, so no possibility of key presses causing the issue. The car had been driven the night before to the supermarket and that was it. Frantically I went outside to examine if the event was caused from a burglary only to find that my wife had left her ATM card on the the passenger seat for anyone to push their hand through the open window and take had they wanted to. That ruled out some mischievous person interfering with the vehicle. A light rain had fallen and I soon realized that the inside of the car was wet. I was lucky that it was not heavy and between my son and I we cleaned up as best we could and sprayed some disinfectant to prevent any moldy smell until I can get a detailing done on it. We wracked our brains trying to think things through with no rational explanation, and finally I came looking on the internet. To my surprise I got the next shock when I found out that is a common issue. Not only is it common, but it is a longstanding one that car manufacturers are actively ignoring. I came upon this thread and read it through and through. The most promising solution That I could relate to was that from poster "07odyexl". I bought a new "driver multiplex control unit" or "driver window switch assembly" and just replaced it today, exactly one-week after the issue occurred. I will now go about my normal business and see if the problem recurs. This problem took three years to manifest itself on my vehicle. The only things that have happened to this vehicle apart from routine oil/filter changes is a software by the dealer in response to recall issue 19V060000 ("https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2017/HONDA/ACCORD/2%252520DR/FWD#recalls"), and that I have changed the batteries in the key fobs, once for each. I will come back and post an update if I experience the problem again.
Our 2018 Pilot Elite just started doing this recently where it has become an issue. The first instance of this, however, occurred when my wife and daughter parked the car at our local State Park and went for a walk. Long story short, they came back to the car and all the windows were down and moon roof open with my wife's credit cards and other items stolen from the glove box and large gift card amounts purchased by the idiots at the Apple Store and Best Buy. We reported the crime and wondered how the thieves would have rolled down all the windows, like maybe they'd intercepted FOB signals to break into it. We read where someone had a similar problem with theft and said that the burglar took something and impacted the drivers side key lock to make the windows go down. I looked at my Pilot key lock and it is indeed partially caving inward and using a key from the fob to try and lock and unlock etc doesn't feel like traditional key action expected to do so. With the battery low voltage probability of causing this I guess an impact to the lock could maybe short circuit something?? I'm thinking of replacing lock, but to use key from fob I'm wondering if lock setting is required to match my Fob or does lock come with a matching key to replace one in the fob? Welcome any thoughts on this...
Guru9485B4 answered 4 years ago
My wife came in this morning telling me I left the sunroof and windows on my 2011 Accord open all night. I hadn't opened them, so I was baffled. Reviewed video surveillance of our driveway and saw them go down on their own. Googling why windows would go down on their own, I came across this forum on Hondas, 1st thing. Seems like a Honda issue. I have in the past removed the button from my fob for the alarm, since my pocket would set off the alarm every now and then, but this is the first for the windows. From the comments, it looks like it could be a fob-in-the-pocket issue, or an electrical issue. Either way, it is a security and quality issue (lucky it didn't rain), and is a "feature" that should be able to be switched off. The value of the feature is not worth the risk it creates.
Guru947WCH answered 4 years ago
We have a 2020 Honda Pilot and experienced windows partly down in parking lot. Now the radio will not pick up local FM radio stations even in major cities, or screen goes completely blank! Honda dealer says it is a recall issue. We're getting it repaired October 1st. We'll see if that really corrects the problem, or not.
Chericedomingo answered 3 years ago
I have a 2018 Honda Accord LX and this also happened to me too.
I bought two XBOX memory card holders off ebay and my key fobs fit in them perfectly. Ever since I started carrying them around like that I haven't had the issue happen again.
Guru955CF1 answered 3 years ago
I think we are talking to each other about this issue and this is not putting any pressure on Honda to address the problem. We should start using social media such as Facebook to publicize the problem and force Honda to address the issue. Let’s all do that now,
Guru955N78 answered 3 years ago
Hi Guru955CF1 - Did you have a particular facebook page or other platformaddress in mind - I would think we should focus the effort somewhere. However, all may not be wasted here. There are lots of potential leads to folks twho would have interest in a class action,. Exploring this and other honda (as well as other car brand's) threads we find people have been cursing this "feature" for a decade now. For the most part they get flipped off by the dealers. We've tried the normal routes but there is too much at stake in terms of recalls and damage claims for makers to admit it is a problem. The automakers will maintain it is a feature and the problem is the customer's carelessness. Proving that the feature itself is defective will be difficult because some hair brained designer came up with a great idea that the industry bought into hook, line and sinker. The activation process conflicts with human behavior - we put keys in pockets or purses and that predestines the feature to inadvertently being triggered. Also, the trigger is device that is mechanically activated and it will, in some cases fail to function as designed. Whether the failure is caused by dirt, damage, wear or something else the mis-function could include openning the windows. It sucks, - we know it and the automakers know it. If Honda was an ethical company they would address our concern. I expect to vote with my feet and wallet and make my next vehicle one that allow this "feature" to be disabled (if I can find one the fits my requirements.)
Honda needs to put out a software update that puts the option in to turn this feature off as that would be the simple thing to do. I watched a video but it was for a US version and they actually have the option to turn the feature off in vehicle settings so ya it is possible
Guru9RB8J1 answered 2 years ago
I woke this morning to my 2021 Honda Accords trunk open and all the windows down. I had both key fobs same place as always, no one touched them!
Was there any lightning? I have been told that also can cause this to happen although in my case I think it was accidently pressing on the fob. I no longer have my Honda Accord but I really wish Honda would fix this problem. Or at least allow it to be turned off. It's a "Feature" that has been plaguing Honda owners now for decades.
Guru923ZCB answered 2 years ago
2016 Honda Pilot When locking the car door with the FOB the car locks and then unlocks. This can be tried for multiple times with the same result. I have tried unlocking and then locking with the lock button on the inside of the door, by pressing the lock button on the outside of the door. Most of the time it will not stay locked. The other issue happening is the car may finally lock and then randomly the windows all roll down and the sunroof opens without anyone touching the FOB. This makes the car vulnerable to theft and vandalism as it is currently unreliable to drive and lock up.
It's a mostly useless feature that Honda has addressed in newer cars. The FOB when accidentally pressed all windows and sunroof roll down. Someone thought was cool. Anyway here is a link to see the update for new hondas. https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=2YN0ow240bI
So I just bought a honda 2023 CRV and guess what? They now have a setting to DISABLE THIS "FEATURE"!!! WHOOOOHOOO!!!! But, now for something completely different, the car has an "Automatic Shut Off when Idling" Feature.... REALLY???? So there is a button that you can press to turn it off, which is something, but it resets after you turn the car off. There is no way to permanently turn it off unless you want to void the warranty. Really Honda, Really??? Now I have to push the button every time I start my car. (I'm having LOST flashbacks....).. Honda PLEASE allow us to turn this "feature" off permanently as well... But thanks for being able to turn off the "Auto windows roll down in the rain" feature....
I have a 2018 Honda Civic & this has happened 3x's to me. First time in the heat of summer & yesterday in the pouring rain.
I was sure that this wasn't being caused by the fobs, they would have needed a range of 2-3 miles on a couple of occasions. The dealers thought it was the fobs, but then whilst they had it they rang to say they had to replace, under warranty, the drivers door access control, it's not happened since. I suspect it's a known fault with a rather expensive fix.
Anyone experiencing this problem needs to check the manual lock on the driver side door. I took my car into my local Honda dealer and explained my situation. My car had randomly started rolling down all of the windows after the car was turned off. At first I thought I had depressed the unlock button and triggered the roll down setting. So I started holding my keys more carefully, making sure I was never touching the buttons but it still kept happening. I changed out the batteries in my key fob, did not fix it. I took out the key in my main fob and tried using my back up key fob to see if it was a key fob issue. Still did not fix the issue. Every time it happened, it sounded like the car would unlock first then the windows would roll down. I have a 2019 Honda Civic Sport ans you cannot disbale this feature in the settings menu. Very frustrating. My honda technician took my manual key and went to manually unlock my car when he noticed that the driver door lock was bashed in. He asked if I have ever used it, which I had not (who uses a manual key when they have a push to start lol). If you did not know, you can trigger the auto unlock roll down windows with the manual key if you turn it twice. So someone had bashed in my driver door lock and broke it, while breaking into my car. Because it was broken, it kept tripping the roll down windows feature. Luckily nothing was stolen, as I keep no valuables in my car. But all this to say, if you have tried everything check the driver door lock. The person who broke into my had to have known about this feature.