Engine Failure on my 2013 BMW X3
I am very upset re: 2 weeks ago my BMW x3, only 5 years old, had engine failure. 76,000 miles and of course out of warranty. This is my 3rd BMW. Corporate BMW just called and they are not willing to pay for any reimbursement. My car just stopped running on a major road. This has never happened with any other car I've owned ( and I've owned many different types of cars). I've researched complaints about BMW's and I'm shocked at how many consumers have had similar problems! Needless to say, this issue needs to be taken further.
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Spread the word and don't buy another one!
Thank you for the prompt response! Yes, I have been complaining to corporate and they just informed me......no assistance!! Yes, that is my make/ model. I have so many other cars that have lasted well into 150,000 miles plus! Thank you again for your response.
barrelgoose answered 6 years ago
just happened to my 2013 x3 28i 52,000 miles. bmw said they will replace with new engine at no charge. They say its a new engine. I wonder what kind of warranty the new engine will have. Also wonder if I should trade in or just keep a 0 mile engine with a 52,000 mile body.
barrelgoose - I have pretty similar vehicle with mileage as yours. Is your vehicle within warranty or out of warranty. Could you please share the process you followed to get connected with BMW
I had my engine repaired and quickly traded this BMW in! I will never buy another BMW! I now a Lincoln MKC....love this car. There was no assistance whatsoever from corporate BMW.
barrelgoose answered 5 years ago
Happened to my 2013 x3 as stated above. Had 52,000 miles. Still under the warranty of 70,000 miles for this issue. Bmw looked at engine, determined it was the timing chain malfunction, replaced the engine for free. Bill was $10,000 but I didn’t pay a thing. It’s crap that they know about this issue and are hoping your vehicle gets past 70,000 miles so they don’t have to pay for it. So got x3 back after a month and seems fine. Unsure if I should keep now or trade in..
barrelgoose answered 5 years ago
Oh, and I’m told the new engine warranty is 2 years, unlimited miles
Hi barrelgoose, thanks for the quick reply. In my case my warranty ran out, called in bmw na and they agreed to provide the assistance( not sure how much though) But the dealership looked at the engine after bmw reached out to them and they are asking me to pay 1500$ to find the root cause and apparently it seems request came from BMW NA to find the root cause. That sounds dumb to me for the dealership to ask me to find the root cause ? Called in BMW NA and waiting for their response.. not sure how to go about it...any advise
Hi barrelgoose, thanks for the quick reply. In my case my warranty ran out, called in bmw na and they agreed to provide the assistance( not sure how much though) But the dealership looked at the engine after bmw reached out to them and they are asking me to pay 1500$ to find the root cause and apparently it seems request came from BMW NA to find the root cause. That sounds dumb to me for the dealership to ask me to pay for to find the root cause ? Called in BMW NA and waiting for their response.. not sure how to go about it...any advise
barrelgoose answered 5 years ago
Hi kannan, tell me what happened to your bmw. What year and model? I know the 2013 bmws that had the n20 engine are the ones that are fAiling.
Hi Barrelgoose, I was driving my 2014 BMW x3 28i 47000 Miles to work, vehicle stopped at my work when I stopped for a moment to get into parking garage, vehicle wouldn't start or goto neutral. Called the towing company and after couple of tries (as they were not able to put the car to neutral) they were able to tow it to the closest BMW dealership. Initially deanship mentioned battery died and they need a new battery, which I agreed to change ($450) and after a day they came back saying engine wouldn't start and they saw metal pieces on the oil pan... and they said only option is to change the engine.....I called BMW NA and provided all the information, they wanted me to talk with service manager at dealership and ask them about assistance, if they denied they were willing to look at the assistance from their end....in between dealership called and mentioned their foreman is going to look at it and they called me back stating changing engine is the easiest and less cost effective. I called BMW NA and asked for assistance and they assigned a case manager and the case has been sent to dealership, which is when the dealership came back and mentioned they need me to take care of the labor ( 7 hours) $1500 to find the root cause and they mentioned BMW NA asked for the root cause for them to determine the next steps and the reason they mentioned was I am out of warranty. I started wondering why they would like to know the root cause and called BMW NA to talk to the case manager about it, but unfortunately for me he was OOO until monday and had to wait until then. In between advisor assigned to my vehicle at dealership called to return my loaner as I did not accept to pay for the root cause and he was talking rude and sounded pissed off as I went back to BMW NA. I hope the informant ion provided is adequate and request you to provide any suggestion /advise for me. I kept searching for the TSB LX30215 mentioned, but couldn't find anything.
barrelhouse - one more thing, there was a hussing sound of the engine when I started the vehicle that morning and as I picked up speed, the sound was not audible.
barrelgoose answered 5 years ago
My local bmw dealer got me a rental (2019 Jeep Cherokee that I loved) and took care of the rest. They didn’t try to charge me. They did say that if the problem was something other than oil pump or timing chain then I would be liable for charges and repair. I was pretty sure it was the timing chain and also I was under the new warranty for that issue of 70,000. I would talk to bmw na and ask about warranty extension for engine failure. Maybe it’s the same engine that was in the 2013s that are a known issue.
Barrelgoose - it’s the N20 engine and bmw NA confirmed of the warranty for the 2 issues you have stated - since the labor effort involved removing oil pan, I guess my issue is with oil pump. Hopefully they come back with that as the root cause and warranty would cover it, hoping for the best and keeping my fingers crossed. Thank you for taking time in replying to my messages.
The extended warranty only applies to the US as they are still not covering the same issues in Canada
Same thing just happened to our daughter’s x3. BMW aid replacing engine under warranty. Did you also get reimbursed for towing? We have a $350 tow charge due to the distance to the nearest BMW dealership.
Do you know of any pending lawsuits against bmw regarding the timing chain. What if we huddle and begin one? Because after spending so much money on this vecle. This is a well known issue. Bmw should fess up and so the right thing!
Anyone interested in starting a lawsuit against bmw on the timing chain problem? Please respond below.
I had a $24,000 new engine replacement. X3 is constantly in the shop with new issues all the time.
My 2013 x3 engine failed due to timing chains and oil pumps chain broken. I towed to bmw specialty shop they has diagnosed the problem passed one month. Now I am stuck with the shop. Reached out to BMw NA.it has 105k miles. Bmw doesn't want to help. Anyone can advise please.
barrelgoose answered 5 years ago
From all the posts I have seen, you are screwed. Bmw won’t help you after the 70,000 miles. Options are to junk it or find a garage that will put a new engine in it.
we just purchased a 2013 x3. didn't notice the ticking,knocking sound when you first start it up did your x3 have any unusual sounds? we do have the smoke out the tail pipe when you leave the car sit for a few days.i read it's the turbo oil lines need replacing.taking it to the dealership friday for that.we have 60k miles on it too
barrelgoose answered 5 years ago
I didn’t notice any ticking or unusual noises before the engine failure. No smoking either. Just a sudden engine failure. We got a check engine light and warming of low oil pressure then 20 second later engine failure. I would be very careful with that engine. I would have the timing chain guide replaced. Mine failed at 50,000 miles.
you think BMW would check this since the engine is ticking before it destroys the engine.i read they increased the warranty to 70 k for timing chain failure...if they could check oil pressure maybe I feel better...
kia offers 100k warranty on there engines and BMW only goes to 70k.that is awful.im am very sorry to have bought a 2013 x3.im considering trading it in and take the loss now before it's too late.bmw should be sued.the ntsb needs to step it up here and protect Americans getting ripped off.
Our 2013 BMW X3 just died suddenly this past weekend. Engine failure, timing chain. Under 70,000 miles but went into service June 2012 so missed 7 years by 2 months. BMW says tough they will not replace. Have said will split 70 (me)/30 them, so looking at $9300. We had ticking sound for years, and just recently had smoke come out exhaust a few times when starting car. I am going to contact BMW NA but sounds like I will get nowhere. No warning, just engine failure. I am happy to join a lawsuit.
Well, mine is an X5 and not an X3 but perhaps its a problem with the 2013's... My 2013 X5diesel just had it's engine die as well. Absolutely NO help from BMW Canada. They were excessively rude and dismissive. We bought this car new from the dealer and had all its service done at a BMW dealership. It had 83,000 kms on it (3000 kms out of warantee). You don't want to know how much a new engine is for it... It just started the ticking/knocking and next thing I know, I'm not able to drive it home. Engine bearing apparently... or so they say.
My 2013 X3 has engine failure at 89000 miles. This is really bad for Bmw to now repair these faulty engines!!!! Shame on u Bmw.
Our 2013 X3 made it to 120k miles before engine failed. Light came on saying oil pressure low and before we could even get it pulled over apparently it missed time causing catastrophic damage. The repair shop we took it to wanted between $9500 and $10,500 to fix / replace engine. I'd like to join the lawsuit!!
My X3 2013 cranks but does not start. Changed battery, fuel pumps, spark plug, pump relay nothing works, it cranks but would not start. Finally told by the BMW trained mechanic timing belt mechanism issues and found a broken plastic part inside the oil pan. yes plastic parts in the BMW engine. It is a lemon now.
Same issue here. 2013 BMW X3 ~85K. Had the following issue immediately before the failure: 1. smoke out of the exhaust during start up 2. engine didnt sound right, not enough to concern us before this issue just a general "different noise" At the time of failure: 1. warning came on about drive shaft malfunction 2. when car was turned off and back on the oil pressure light and engine light came on 3. car wouldn't restart Took it to BMW where they diagnosed and told us about a complete engine replacement, haven't heard back about help with cost yet.
tsobran@sobranlaw.com is handling class action suit.
This is unbelievable! 2013 X3 here had same timing chain problem last week. Wife almost got into a car accident on the freeway because the car just died. This also happened within a week of having the oil changed. The car is in the shop right now and we're not happy paying 10,000 for a car only 7 years old. Class action lawsuit needs to happen.
My 2013 bmw 328I xdrive just took a crap at 80K miles. Bmwna refusing to help even though they know the parts are defective. I am also interested in joining a lawsuit. They should be fixing this. Will never buy another bmw & will warm anyone thinking to do so. It’s ridiculous that this expensive luxury car that they charge so u h for can’t even make it to 90K My Chevy Chevette made it to 319K with zero repairs. They should be ashamed how they are doing people. They lost lawsuit last year & were found liable by federal judge so I’m not sure how they are getting away with continued refusal of repair. Makes me sick. But American that’s all I can say.
I just had 2014 X3 35i engine died in the middle of the road. Just 72k miles on it and No warning lights nothing, car went into Parking and no luck to turn it into Neutral. Towed it to the dealership and they came back with engine fail reason and $13500 estimation to replace the engine. Called BMW customer relations department and they assigned a case manager. I’m hoping to hear back from them in next few days. This is ridiculous. Let’s see whether Bmw could assist. I’m going to sue them if I don’t respond with positive news.
My 2013 x3 just had the engine go out, too. Driving down the highway and the drive train light came on...caution but continue driving...I pulled in a Chevron station within 3 minutes of the warning to call BMW just in case....as I pulled up to park the engine light and low oil pressure light came on and the car just died. Ruined engine and I owe $10k on the car and they want $14k for a new engine. I had 79,000 miles on the car. I'm screwed...they offered me a discount on the engine of 15% or $1500 trade-in. I'm done.
My 2013 X3 engine died 3 days back . About 60K miles on it. Sucks that the engines are so undependable even at 60K miles! What a ripe off. Never touching another BMW again
I also experienced the same problem. I was picking up my fiancé from work, we were at a stop sign and suddenly the engine to my 2013 BMW X3 (28i engine) died with 83K miles on it. I couldn't start the car or shift it into neutral. I had to tow to BMW. Major engine damage due jumped timing, damaging internal motor. BMW dealership is asking over $14K with labor to replace the engine. I contacted BMW North America to help with this issue. Customer Relations and Services / Escalation Specialist is asking for all maintenance documents. I hope they can assist me and replace / repair the motor for no cost. Otherwise I'm definitely joining the lawsuit. I was just about to trade in my car for a new one. That is not acceptable for BMW standards! They should do a national recall and replace, or repair the parts defective related to the timing chain. I'm very upset and really disappointed with BMW. Better actions should have taken place on their part. It has been almost 2 months now with a rental car.
Same issue. Wife was driving 2013 X3 28i and as she approached traffic light warning flashed for the oil pressure low followed by drive train failure, The vehicle was unable to restart and was towed to the dealer states that metal shavings were in the oil. Dealer is asking for $15000 to replace the engine. I called BWM USA and they said there was nothing they could do as the car is out of warranty. I know from looking at different websites that this is a known issue (since 2012) and no recalls were ever made. I am joing the class action lawsuit.
I wrote a letter to my dealership about disappointed and hurt I was because I was a loyal customer and brought up this thread. they came back offered to "split" the cost with me. I have another mechanic looking at it to really assess it but this is so not cool. How can I join the class action suit? This is soooo wrong.
2013 BMW X3 engine died on the highway three days ago. 95k miles on the car. Oil pressure warning came up and the engine just died. I had to have it towed to the BMW dealership and they found the timing chain broken. Engine needs to be replaced. I have extended warranty until 2021/106000 miles. I am hoping the warranty company would approve the claim. I would be happy to join the lawsuit.
Bruce, with BMW of North America told me that "70,000 miles was the general life expectancy of the engines" which is why I guess they only warranty them for up to 70,000 miles or 7 years. I was blown away. By the way, my mechanic repaired my car for half the price of BMW and it was the plastic that the timing chain goes around which broke. Common problem. This is not cool and I will continue to tweet about this everyday. You are lucky that you are under warranty or you would be another casualty of shoddy service...which at one time, used to be stellar. They quit caring as much as soon as they traded the cloth towels in the bathrooms for the paper ones.
NikB768583 answered 5 years ago
Same problem. 2011 BMW X3. Although it has 101,000 miles. My issue and frustration is built up with the fact that I just spent $4,000 on a laundry list of misc. mechanical issues after the service engine light came on. 2 days afterwards it shut off on my daughter in the middle of the road and would not restart. I had it towed to a shop and they told me it would be $4,500 to replace the timing chain. BMW cars have been in my family my entire life and this is so disappointing. I would welcome any information with regard to holding BMW accountable. “The ultimate driving machine”* *Vehicle must start in order to drive
Same problem at 97000 miles, no warranty. 3 weeks after fuel pump and battery replacement, drivetrain malfunction light came on, stopped and did not restart. Like the others, had to get it towed, followed by a phone call today quoting 13,2 k to get a new engine. They do not know the cause but metal parts were found in my oil as well. Gathering now the service history records to call NA BMW tomorrow morning! Happy to join the lawsuit!
Well good luck because I have in ROUNDS with BMW. They told me there is no lawsuit happening now, it is out of their hands and for the dealership to have the final say-so. What keeps happening is the casing for the drive chain is plastic...it breaks causing a chain reaction with breaking another smaller chain. ALSO Bruce, with BMW of America flat out told me that that 70,000k or 7 years is about the life expectancy of their engines! I called him out on the BS and he kind of back tracked but they it's a problem and they don't care. I am about to TWEET a firestorm over this because "they care about their image" Not right. my real mechanic railed on them
Well, unfortunately it happened to me today. I made a connection with a law firm pursuing a class action. See below. We are currently in negotiations with BMW to further extend the engine warranty. Shortly after we filed suit against BMW for the defects in the chain assemblies, they extended the engine warranty for these assemblies from 4yrs/50K to 7yrs/70K. I should have additional information in about 60 days on the progress of the negotiations. You would be part of the class action unless you decide to opt out or are not within the settlement agreement terms. Please make sure BMW NA has your name, contact information and VIN for purposes of sending you information on any settlement proposal. Thomas P. Sobran 7 Evergreen Lane Hingham, MA 02043 Tel: (781) 741-6075 Fax: (781) 741-6074 tsobran@sobranlaw.com
Capeguru57 answered 5 years ago
Well found this post as my 2013 X3 died on me yesterday and had to be towed. I just got the call that it’s a timing chain issue and although the part itself is only a few hundred the labor is 17+ hrs between diagnosis and repair so total job greater than $3000. Or I could replace engine for $10000. Not! Car only has 90,000. Very disappointing to say the least!
Johnathan Erica answered 5 years ago
Same thing happened to me. my BMW X3 2013 engine failed while driving on the highway low oil pressure light came on and then the car died. Took it to BMW they want 15,000 to replace the engine. I still owe 18,000$ on the car I’m hurt and screwed. This was my first BMW and sad to say this will be my last. I want to join the class action suit.
HI All! Just happened to us last week with our 2013 X3. Our description of what happened sounds exactly the same as what has happened above. The engine died on the way to the dealership and the car had to be towed in. The dealership quoted us $15,000 for new engine. Reached out to corporate, who denied a fix as well. My thought is that we are all the early ones to hit the higher mileage on the 2013s. It's going to start happening more and more often very soon. Happy to join any effort to put pressure on BMW.
Same thing happened to us also. Our BMW X3 2013. 105KM engine failed after driving for 10minutes and when parked in our driveway. When called BMW, they refused to provide assistance. I want to join the class action suit.
Sad thing is they will NEVER pay for anything or help anyone out of warranty. Fact. The guy, whose name I am going to find and tweet about, told me they expectancy for their engines is about $70,000! NUTS... They hate bad publicity so there needs to be a tweet storm. I wrote one nasty letter and 5 different people called me. So sorry about your car. I really loved mine until then. Not fair at all.
If you have a track record of scheduled maintenance performed within the recommended periods by the dealership and write an email to BMW NA, even if you are not the first owner in my experience they will fit the bill partially! (40%) Hope it works out for you!
My 2013 with 77k miles engine just went I don’t have warranty and bought it from bmw used! should I even waste my time to see if they will cover it?
If you have a good relationship with them and regular maintenance, they may offer to cover some. BMW of NA told me it's up to the dealership, but it seems they are used to this complaint and don't care anymore.
who do i call to file suit? Class action against BMW you all in? https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Discussion-d392_ds969148 This is a reoccurring problem please assist me in any way. My insurance company so far will not total car, service manager is saying its no longer in warranty and its functionally totaled! Who can I call to file suit? Sincerely, Judith Lisa Moolten 415 Rose Street Hendersonville NC 28739 304-551-2607
There is a lawsuit I would like to join you I have a 2013 X.3 120K the engine just died two months ago, shop want 11G to fix, bmw are used to help, I am willing to try in any lawsuit is filed against BMW
I also have had a catastrophic engine failure. Drive train malfunction to low oil pressure light to dead engine in 5 minutes. Issue in my 528i with the 4 cylinder turbo was rail for the timing chain is plastic and broke. BMW wanted 15k. My mechanic put an engine that had 25k miles on it in for 6k.. I called bmw after the fact since I had 130,00 miles on the engine, and they got back to me that they would have covered at least part of the repairs if I had it done at BMW. Their pause in the conversation, tells me they are well aware there is a problem and are seeking to avoid a class action. My mechanic who does all high end car repairs has replaced 6 bmw engines since September.
3ToTheWest answered 4 years ago
Just happen to me 2 days ago. 92K km. Brought it to the closest garage and they recommend to bring it to the Dealer. (500 gone there). Now they asked me for proof of oil change for the last 2 years. Dealer will submit the file to BMW Canada but will pray to see what happens. Definitely did not expect that from a BMW. An engine that does not last past 100K Km. Will keep you posted to see their answer. For sure I will not pay a new engine if we can clearly see this is a major issue. Can anyone confirm if the action law suit with sobran is only for US or North America? Anyone from Canada that might know about a law suit already started? Thanks
X3inCalifornia answered 4 years ago
Hi all, just chiming in here as this happened to me 2 days ago. Got the ominous drivetrain malfunction light and brought it into the mechanic who said he's seen this before. Pieces of the timing chain are evident, and he recommends engine replacement. Called the local dealer who won't do anything as my car is a 2013 X3 with 76k miles. I'm going to reach out to the lawfirm. What is one supposed to do in this situation? For those who cannot afford the 13k+ repair costs for a new engine- do you just junk it? (this saddens me) What prices have you gotten for such a car in this condition. I'm feeling very helpless and frustrated right now. Thanks
3ToTheWest answered 4 years ago
Some development since my last post. Dealer came back saying that a new engine is 25k Canadian. Apparently I missed the guarantee by 20 some days. However, if the car would have broke down earlier, they would have covered it 100%. By the way the replacement engine would be a new 2013 x3 n2 engine. Ridiculous, replacing with the same engine but new althoguh they know there is a default. At this point we have no choice to pay the 30% of the repair. For all the canadian friends, I was able to find this link https://www.strosbergco.com/class-actions/bmw/ for the class action lawsuit. However, tried to call a couple of times but did not got a call back.
Hello Everyone. Not glad to be part of this group but unfortunately I believe this happening to all X3 owners. Got a warning from BMW dealer that my vehicles timing chain is about to fail and estimated repair cost is around 5k ( I have a pending loan of 9k on vehicle). Now I am scared to even drive my car. Is there any update on class action??
barrelgoose answered 4 years ago
For those who got a replacement engine.....are you trading in or keeping vehicle. my engine failed on my 2013 bmw x3 at 50000 miles. Got a new engine from BMW now i am at 68000 miles....18000 on new engine. do i keep or trade in? The cost to own a bmw is pretty expensive.
On Jan 26, 2020 this happened to me as well. I feel everyone's frustrations as my warranty apparently ended on Jan 2, 2020, although I purchased an extended warranty that I was misled to believe covered me for 72 months or 100k miles from when I purchased my 2014 X3. I had 66k miles and loyally brought it to the dealership for all maintenance including new battery and all new tires. I was quoted $29k but BMW will cover 50%. After talking to the class action lawyer mentioned in an earlier post he said I was likely given a grossly overstated quote to make it appear they had given a "goodwill" offer. The average cost for a remanufactured engine is $15k with $18k being the high end. I believe the class action, if won, will cover $15k so by BMW quoting $29k and covering 50% I effectively would get nothing. I asked for a quote if a used engine and it was $20k and no assistance from BMW. I'm writing a letter to Consumer Reports and the Attorney General.
barrelgoose answered 4 years ago
I saw the bill after my engine was replaced. Total of $10,000. Covered by bmw. I guess I was lucky to have engine failure at 50,000 miles. 2013 x3 has been a money pit so far.
I'm in ! Just happened today to my wife's X3 2013 . But BMW dealership service departments must be complicit in this. Our Drivetrain malfunction occurred multiple times while under warranty which I had bought & extended as a certified. Somehow they got it back on the road each time until finally deemed undriveable and they charged us $3000 to fix the timing. Within 8 months it rolled to a stop and now they say we need a new engine. The fact this was occurring under warranty only to need a new engine out of warranty feels fradulent. The same problem has been plaguing this car all along . Class action or settle, its the last BMW I'll buy ( and we own 3) .
Just happened to me at 89k miles. After 5 weeks of my car in the dealers garage, the extended warranty company says they won't cover engine replacement because I somehow kept driving the vehicle. Engine light came on then low oil pressure warning then engine turns off. Tow truck driver had to drag it onto a flat bed because it won't go into neutral because the engine won't start.
Can this be remedied before it happens? Can I get the timing chain replaced before this happens, if so, will it help?
Scotty2Hottiee answered 4 years ago
I'm in too! It just happened 2 days ago to my X3 2013 . BMW dealership service departments should know of this issue by now, but not mine I guess. My BMW failed similarly to what I’ve read here before me, but at first my service repair tech said that it would cost about $2200 mostly just in labor to replace it. I didn’t hear from him for a couple of days so I called in and found out. That he went out on vacation for a couple of days and another guy is filling in. The new tech told me that it’s going to be around $6000 that’s when I found this website. I called back and asked about the 70,000 mile warranty on my vehicle even though it only has a little over 60,000 on it he said he didn’t know and he would look into it.... huh?
I'm dealing with the same issue. Less than a mile from my house without warning the car just died in the middle of the street. I'm still paying on the 2013 and its heart breaking. The cost for a new engine is insane. There has to be some type of resolution.
Same exact issue with my 2013 BMW x3 28i. Recently moved down to Utah from Washington State and made the drive great. In fact, I bought it used less than two years ago and replaced the turbo on it within the last year. On Tuesday (May 11, 2020) within several minutes of driving like normal the drivetrain, oil pressure, and check engine light all came on and got it to a certified mechanic to get it looked at right away. Timing belt issue that has seemed to damage my engine. The BMW Murray, UT location wants me to tow the car in so they can take a look and determine that that is in fact the issue but I wanted word that they would be able to help me out in some way if it is in fact the issue with the timing belt. They told me to talk to BMW USA, called and BMW USA said to talk to a service manager at BMW Murray... this sucks... Should I pay to get it towed and for them to diagnose the same issue that my mechanic up here has and then decide on if they want to actually provide some assistance with engine replacement (which according to this forum they most likely will refuse to do since it is at 98,000 miles? I would like to join with a lawsuit if one is being formed. Thanks for all the posts, glad I am not alone even though I wish this happened to no one.
I had the same issue. I still owe 7000 for the vehicle but I’m at 72,000 miles so just missed the extended warranty by 2,000 miles. So upset but what choice do I have to replace engine. Bmw Na said they would split cost 60/40 so still leaves me having to pay 5,000 and they give me no other option but to have engine replaced by dealership. Ridiculous they don’t have to take full responsibility as I bought my car in 2016 w 28,000 miles on it as a cpo so they certified a vehicle knowing it had engine problems. So disappointed in the lack of concern from bmw na.
BMW should had a recall on the chain jumping. It just happened to my X3 with 79,000 miles. The car is at the shop... waiting to see if the valves are bent. NOT HAPPY WITH BMW HANDLING OF THIS KNOWN PROBLEM.
Engine died on my 2013 BMWX3 7 months ago, only 58k miles. Negotiated with BMW NA and dealer. I ended up paying 4K out of pocket (original 12k)... Now fast forward 6 months, big plumes of white gas coming out of exhaust. Dealer told me that my turbocharger is broken and it was NOT part of the engine replaced and demands another 4k to fix. Does anyone know if turbocharger should have been part of the engine swap? And does the new engine warranty covers this? I am very angry and disappointed as a customer and willing to join a lawsuit as well.
Please call BMW North America @ (800) 831-1117 to report your timing chain failure. They extended to 7 year/70k miles knowing well that most failure will happen after 75k miles. Make sure you talk to talk to the escalation dept., once they tell you that it's outside their warranty period. Defective parts should be recalled, the timing chain defect is a safety concern. My 2013 X3 with 75,700 miles had defective timing chain and killed my engine. I lost all power to the vehicle when it happened. Also file a claim with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration online @ https://www.nhtsa.gov/. Here is the direct link to file a complaint ( https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/). The more complaints and frequency they get from NHTSA, the more likely a recall can happen. Let's make BMW NORTH AMERICA responsible and have them stop denying that there is a defect in the timing chain system. Please call BMW North America @ (800) 831-1117 to report your timing chain failure. They extended to 7 year/75k miles knowing well that most failure will happen after 75k miles. Make sure you talk to talk to the escalation dept., once they tell you that it's outside their warranty period. Defective parts should be recalled, the timing chain defect is a safety concern. My 2013 X3 with 75,700 miles had defective timing chain and killed my engine. I lost all power to the vehicle when it happened which is definitely a safety issue. Also file a claim with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration online @ https://www.nhtsa.gov/. Here is the direct link to file a complaint ( https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/). The more complaints and frequency they get from NHTSA, the more likely a recall can happen. Let's make BMW NORTH AMERICA responsible and have them stop denying that there is a defect in the timing chain system. ATTN: BMW TIMING CHAIN DEFECT Please call BMW North America @ (800) 831-1117 to report your timing chain failure. They extended to 7 year/75k miles knowing well that most failure will happen after 75k miles. Make sure you talk to talk to the escalation dept., once they tell you that it's outside their warranty period. Defective parts should be recalled, the timing chain defect is a safety concern. My 2013 X3 with 75,700 miles had defective timing chain and killed my engine in Nov, 2019. I lost all power to the vehicle when it happened which is definitely a safety issue. Also file a claim with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration online @ [url]https://www.nhtsa.gov/[/url]. Here is the direct link to file a complaint ( https://www- odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/). The more complaints and frequency they get from NHTSA, the more likely a recall can happen. Contact any law firm that is handling the class action lawsuit. Let's make BMW NORTH AMERICA responsible and have them stop denying that there is a defect in the timing chain system.
Our 2013 x3 engine failed at 93,000 miles while driving down the road. About 30 seconds of notice. No one 'has ever seen this before' or knows what it could be, but from this thread it looks like it is a common problem. I'd like to sue as well so if there is a lawsuit agains BMW for the 2013 X3 engine failure, please let me know.
My X3 died a couple weeks ago. Car seemed fined until it wasn't. Driving on highway. Low oil pressure warning, then within 60 sec drivetrain malfunction warning, loss of power. Towed to dealership. They say my warranty is not expired but I still haven't got the final word what they will do about it. They are acting a little funny. Keep warning me I will need to authorize a teardown at my expense to diagnose the issue. There's no way I'm paying them for that. Having read all these forums this is obviously a widespread and inherent problem with their engine. Seems like the warranty is extended in USA but not clear in Canada, where I am. If BMW doesn't own this 100% I'm joining the class action. The class action in the US may settle in July. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1614899&page=28
How do I join the class action lawsuit against BMW for my 2013 x3 engine not working?
Same problem as all . I have 122000 km on my BMW X3. HOW do i join class action suit.
On vacation in Colorado, 2013 X3 stranded me at 86,000 miles. Timing chain stretched and blew the engine. Car ran great, until it stopped within seconds of warning light. Repair estimate was more than value of the car. Had to sell for 25% of its good running value in Colorado to avoid expense and hassle of shipping 800 miles to my home. I want to be part of any lawsuit!! I signed up for one class action with McCunewright.com (law firm in Ontario,California), but was told they dropped it, since BMW extended the warranty (to 70k). What the heck???
Same issue here. 2013 x3 28i 83k miles. In March 2020 my car died while driving, no warning. BMW said it was my fuel pump and modulator (?)I paid $4.5k But they warranted the chain and glides, since it was there for service anyway. They also fixed the turbo line that’s recalled. They scratched my car and damaged my muffler damper. Which they fixed. Took 2 weeks in the shop no loaner available. Took the car home, then Covid hit and I was home, didn’t drive car much. Last month it happened again while driving on the freeway. Thought I was going to die! The car started after 2 hours, I was out of town and trying to get a tow truck with dollys since it wouldn’t go into N. Back to dealer, they had it for a week. they can’t find the problem but they replaced the thermostat bc that’s the only code that showed up- they covered that. Brought it home and not more than a day and it happened again. Now the engine turns but won’t start. I never had a check engine light. I am thinking it was never the fuel pump. The car is only worth $10k or less, not worth dumping more money into it? I would appreciate any suggestions. I too would like to join the law suit. Thank you Maria Swanson
thejerms311 answered 4 years ago
Lost my X3 at 79.000 miles. Same old story, oil pressure light, drive train warning, then the car shuts down. My brother and I confirmed the motor wasn't locked up and that the timing chain was bad. Towed it to the dealer. All they do is lie to you. Getting nowhere with this. Apparently I'm stuck with a loan for a car that won't drive.
Mine too . 2013 X3 122 000 miles. Fine one minute broke the next.
Guru944T69 answered 4 years ago
2013 bmw 328i xdrive Junk. if they knew it was going to happen they should repair. Count me in on the law suit. Steve Carson.
I was referred to this article that was published last week, worth a read. https://www.law360.com/classaction/articles/1304914/bmw-will-cover-repair-costs-to-end- engine-defect-suit?fbclid=IwAR0--slD2gY9G4xv8cjwVvWCHgIx3MU3w3U- pkq_pN7cTTsT48wMULCpufs Here is the full article: Law360 (August 27, 2020, 4:37 PM EDT) -- BMW has agreed to a class action settlement in New Jersey federal court that would reimburse drivers for defective chain assemblies that caused premature engine failure, without giving class members additional settlement funds, according to a court filing Wednesday. According to drivers' motion for preliminary approval of the deal, which would end their litigation, the settlement applies to approximately 575,024 vehicles in the U.S., covering more than a dozen BMW models with model years varying between 2012 and 2015. While BMW and the plaintiffs haven't agreed on the plaintiffs' attorney fees and expenses, the fees will land somewhere between $1.5 million and $3.7 million. Each of the 20 class representatives will get $1,000, coming out of attorney fees and costs, according to the agreement. The 2017 lawsuit alleged that BMW of North America LLC hid inherent design defects in its vehicles with series N20/N26 engines whose timing and oil pump drive chain assemblies prematurely failed. Either failure can cause loss of power, stalling and limited ability to accelerate or maintain speed, and in some instances, "engine self-destruction," according to the agreement. Drivers claimed that BMW knew about the defect because of the high number of warranty claims for the timing chain assemblies, customer complaints, field investigations, communications with dealers and service technicians, discussions in online forums, several redesign attempts, as well as that identical timing chain components in predecessor models experienced failure, according to the complaint. BMW customers who filed the suit also claimed the company should have had a warranty on the parts longer than four years or 50,000 miles, whichever came first, because it knew that wasn't adequate and that the serviceable life of the vehicles should've lasted much longer. After the initial complaint in 2017, BMW of North America extended the engine warranty for the chain assembly components from the original four years or 50,000 miles to seven years or 70,000 miles. As part of the settlement, BMW agreed to continue to honor that extension and will also reimburse people for unreimbursed past chain assemblies repair or costs that took place before eight years or 100,000 miles. Replacing both chain assemblies (primary timing chain, tensioner and rails/guides together with the oil pump/counterbalance shaft chain and sprockets) costs about $4,500-$5,000 if there is no engine damage, the agreement said. And plaintiffs have gotten estimates upward of $12,000 for engine replacement, the filing said. The settlement will reimburse customers who had out-of-pocket expenses to repair or replace one failed timing chain module and/or one failed oil pump drive chain module. If the parts failure happened before the seven years or 70,000 miles threshold, the customer will be reimbursed 100% of the cost, including any associated engine damage, for work done at an authorized BMW Center. For work done at an independent service center, BMW will reimburse up to $3,000 for the timing chain module or oil pump drive chain module and up to $7,500 for engine failure, according to the settlement. Failures between years seven and eight and up to 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, will be reimbursed for work done at an authorized BMW Center "in accordance with a contribution schedule" that decreases the reimbursement amount as the mileage increases, the settlement said. The same sloping reimbursement schedule applies for work done at an independent service center, but it's capped at $3,000 for the timing chain module, oil pump drive chain module repairs and $7,500 for the engine failure repairs, according to the agreement. Engine chain parts that fail in the future will have to be repaired at authorized BMW Centers only, giving those class vehicles up to eight years or 100,000 miles and is also subject to a schedule that reimburses less as the mileage on the vehicle climbs, according to the deal. Also, for one year from the settlement's effective date, any class vehicle with less than 100,000 miles, regardless of its age, that experiences timing chain module failure, oil pump drive chain module failure, or engine damage or failure due to timing chain module or oil pump drive chain module failure, may go to an authorized BMW Center for repair, subject to a decreasing reimbursement rate as the mileage on the vehicle increases, the agreement states. Unless where stated, there's no cap to how much the customers in the settlement class can receive for valid claims, which must be requested via a claim form on the settlement website or by mail. The settlement comes after several case management conferences and formal discovery, including BMW giving "voluminous documents" and materials provided by their parent company, according to the filing. "The parties then decided to attempt an amicable resolution and exchanged additional informal discovery in furtherance of a settlement" followed by two full-day mediations with a retired U.S. district judge, the settlement said. The suit had originally been filed against BMW of North America's German parent company, Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft, which designed and constructed the defective engine parts. But the plaintiffs voluntarily dismissed the parent company on Sept. 24, 2018, in exchange for their cooperation during discovery, including giving them design drawing and technical information. In October 2018, U.S. District Judge William H. Walls partly granted and partly denied BMW's motion to dismiss, keeping alive most claims for breach of warranty, consumer fraud and unjust enrichment, but tossing a negligent misrepresentation claim and certain individual claims from plaintiffs who didn't have standing to sue. Counsel for BMW declined to comment Thursday and referred questions to BMW of North America, who didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. Counsel for the plaintiffs also declined to comment Thursday. The plaintiffs are represented by Gary S. Graifman and Jay I. Brody of Kantrowitz Goldhamer & Graifman PC, Bruce H. Nagel and Randee M. Matloff of Nagel Rice LLP, and Thomas P. Sobran of Thomas P. Sobran PC. BMW is represented by Rosemary J. Bruno, Christopher J. Dalton, Daniel Z. Rivlin and Argia J. DiMarco of Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney PC. The case is Gelis et al. v. BMW of North America LLC, case number 2:17-cv-07386, in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey. --Additional reporting by Linda Chiem. Editing by Alyssa Miller. Read more at: https://www.law360.com/classaction/articles/1304914/bmw-will-cover-repair- costs-to-end-engine-defect-suit?fbclid=IwAR0--slD2gY9G4xv8cjwVvWCHgIx3MU3w3U- pkq_pN7cTTsT48wMULCpufs?copied=1
Mine died at 101,000 miles. Took it to the dealer where I bought it brand new 6 years earlier and they couldn't help me. Will never buy or recommend a BMW ever again.
2013 X3 with only 56K miles. Got the low oil pressure warning last week, 30 seconds later car put me in neutral and died. Looks like the class action is going to extend the years to 8 years from original in service date, but we can't file a claim until a final settlement date at or around Feb of 2021. So we can wait and then get 75% reimbursement based on the payout table from the lawsuit documents.
Guru9D7TL8 answered 4 years ago
2013 BMW X3, Drivetrain malfunction occurred at 100,400 miles. Took it to the dealer and they did a major maintanence which costed me $2500, then diagnosed the issue was turbocharger failure. This alone would cost more than $4000 to $5000. I was screwed up by the dealer and BMW NA. Declined to fix it, just drive slowly to overcome the failure warning. never buy a BMW ever again. I’d like to join the class lawsuit.
Sucks to read this thread. My 2013 x3 just failed at 96k (about at that 7+ year mark of course). Would like info on any lawsuits as well.
Guru9Z82MT answered 4 years ago
2013 x3 66,000 dead engine that was replaced by dealership, now at 106,000 dead again. I will never buy BMW again EVER!!!
Well, I guess I can join the club. My 2013 x3 with 54000 miles just died in the same manner as most of the above posts. My son was driving it, drive train failure warning, then low oil warning. He was lucky to get off of the highway. Can't get it out of park, and real wheels won't turn. My mechanic says it needs a new engine. The car is 7 years old and out of warranty.
Unfortunately I have the same issue too. Drive train failure, low oil pressure. Pulled over, got towed to the dealer. Quoted me $13,000 to replace engine. 2013 X3 70000 :(
Guru9BPDBY answered 3 years ago
Our 2012 X1 packed it in two days ago. Engine just died. We were lucky to escape unharmed as we had just crossed a busy intersection. Quoted $25,000.00 to replace engine. HUMM - car is worth about $12,000 if running. Guess what? Have to get new car and never again a BMW! Al M.
I have a 2013 X3 105K need new engine due to fail due to defective oil pump, will not buy another one,
Guru9LVZ84 answered 3 years ago
Joining the club.. My X3 died this month - 100K miles. Low Oil Pressure warning while driving and then stopped. Car won't start or go to Neutral. Towed to dealer - Did Diagnostic test and said engine jumped timing. They don't want to open the engine to see what is wrong as they said it will cost me $2K+ in labor and most likely there will be engine damage. Estimate says replace engine for $16K.
Joining the club and interested in the lawsuit. 2014 BMW X3 28i 90K miles. Had it regularly serviced at BMW and very well maintained. 2 nights ago suddenly had 'low oil pressure' warning appear. Immediately pulled over and had it towed to BMW. Today they called saying the oil filter was filled with metal pieces and oil pressure only 30 psi. Advised a new engine for $15.7K. No warranty and no help either. Now struggling to find what to do next. Sell/exchange/dump. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Goldenpear508 answered 3 years ago
Amazing reading this as I was searching to see if this was a known problem because it just happened to me this morning on my 2013 X3. 113k miles, never had any engine problems, I take it for regular services at the dealer. Driving down the highway when drivetrain malfunction warning appeared, then the oil pressure warning, made my way over to the breakdown lane where it died. Had it towed and dealer is quoting me $13,800 for new engine. Trying to decide what to do from here. Really loved this car and have had very few problems with it in the 6 years I have had it.
Mine just died at 152,000 miles. Just put $2,000 into it a month ago. Getting refurbished engine for $7,500 then selling it!
Not sure selling low is a great move. I figured once I put this much cash into this car I may as well try to get some use out of it.
Mine is a 2013 BMW X3 with 105,000 miles. Never was notified of the lawsuit and now I need a new Timing Chain and Oil Pump Drive. It's going to cost me over $5k. This is not right! I have sent a note to the law firm hoping I might get some assistance.
Any class action? 2018 x5m. Engine failure 108,000 km, never missed a service. Just died in live lane of hwy.
Guru97PK9P answered about a year ago
About 2 weeks ago my 2013 BMW X3 had an engine failure at 112k miles. I did all my maintenance and still it happened. All levels were ok in the car. He said it was the oil pump and said the pistons bent. It's really frustrating. BMW dealership quoted me 20k for a new engine. My car has been garaged and detailed regularly so I have no oxidation or dings on my car. Interior is clean. I did see the class action lawsuit but also was not notified. You had to join by 2020. I'm not sure what to do at this point but i know i'm not spending 20k on a new engine. I tried emailing the law firm but the email didn't go through. So frustrating to see my car like this. Anyone have any luck with BMW or the law firm? There are articles all over the internet about the oil pump and timing chain failure.
The payouts from the lawsuit have already been distributed. And you didn't qualify for anything if your car had over 100,000 miles anyway. BMW is basically saying don't expect to get more than 100k out of their cars. Never buy another one.
Guru97PK9P answered about a year ago
I think it's time to sell as is. Maybe someone will get to enjoy it after a new engine is put in it. Yep, this is my 2nd BMW and also my last. I've already purchased a new car. Such a shame because it's a body style that doesn't look old and was fun to drive. So much for keeping up with the maintenance. Maybe it bought me more miles? Thanks for the clarification on the lawsuit.
Everyone repeat after me, "I will never buy another BMW again." The $2000 the dealer charged me to tell me I had to buy a new engine still burns.