engine Failure 1059 miles after dealer visit

Asked by Mazdas3 Jun 07, 2018 at 05:25 PM about the 2008 Mazda MAZDASPEED3 Sport

Question type: Maintenance & Repair

Hello,

I had brought my 150k mile car in for service, they recommended that i
replace my timing chain, water pump, vvt, main seal gasket(etc), entire oil
pan, and oil pan gasket along with adding new oil and filter(of course). I
drove less 2000 miles and my engine blew. There was no oil on my dipstick
and when i checked under the car there was oil leaking EVERY WHERE!
This is obviously related to the dealership's repairs.

Does this mean they have to replace my motor?

4 Answers

Did they do those repairs? If you can get an independent set of eyes on the car before taking it back to the dealer. That way you have another mechanics findings to back you up.

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Certainly it is possible that it is coincidence that the engine blew after the repairs. If it tossed a rod through the oil pan or block that would have caused all the oil to come out on the ground. Many times if a timing chain breaks then all the valves will be bent and the engine will just stop, but the bottom end of the engine remains mostly undamaged. My guess is that something in the bottom end of the engine broke and that would be unrelated to the repairs. The engine needs to be disassembled to determine the exact cause of the failure. Broken connecting rods are not uncommon for the engine that your car has.

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Had the same thing happen to me. I swear to God it's like Mazda hit the self destruct button on my car right off the assembly line. Only difference is my engine failed at 41000 7 years- bought it new in 2010. First 600 miles, transmission rebuilt. First turbo in first year, followed by a slew of Tpms sensors, noisy power steering, poor breaking, eventually turbo again. Then I moved and things got real interesting. Mazda I went to was going under new management and practicing something called "driving sales in the service Lane". This meant your service advisor dictated what to tell you your vehicle needed and hope to God they're honest good people. Incentives to push more services instead of actual preventative maintenance, troubleshooting , lack of training, unfamiliarity with the l3 turbo engine-it was Ford's afterall-. Stupid engine control system worked entirely different than every other car, a keyless crank and cam system held together by a paper thin I mean PAPER THIN.. WASHER and every bolt on the car loosened. Other car manufacturers request techs to tighten bolts at intervals but nobody at Mazda nao does crap. Look at the top 100 Automotive companies or parts distributors. Mazda is not on a single page or list. They rode into this era on Ford's back like a 16 year old girl gets a Mustang for her birthday. Mazda hopped off one horse to get on Denso Toyotas flag pole and they're just extra hands to make more parts since Denso Toyota is slaying the NA automotive market. According to numbers and math, I read less than 40% Mazda owners return to the brand on their next vehicle, 20% less then AVERAGE. And btw my engine oil leak occurred from the dealer double gasketting oil filter and misthreading my oil filter. Unfortunately I didn't drive the POS every day and took 3 weeks for in to fall off mid drive-200 miles into the service. They denied me warranty, forced my engine to turn over despite it having lost oil pressure, gave it back to me with a failed turbo again. I spent the next 4 years repairing it, only to have the vvt from the tsb in 2012 take the car out! Funny thing is it was a recall, that could've repaired my car, but Mazda worrying they screwed my car up-instead denied it, claiming I was "suspicious". Meanwhile years later I find out they were the suspicious ones. Paying service advisors extra to insist to customers they get extra services or even misdiagnose problems, charge you, then a week or two later after DTC reset and Emissions testing ready, you're calling wondering why and they're denying responsibility because apparently in Mazda land, problems they would cause would display immediately after. No other way. . Driving sales those few years increased sales upwards of 50% in the service Lane. See auto news web blog Skagit Mazda. They literally would label people who they thought were likely 2nd or third owners, hit them with a $3-4k service bill so they'd sell or trade the car in to avoid the bill, take your car, make money off your car, the last person, and the work your car then would get ain't 3-4k. Research certifications or requirements to become a Mazda "lube technician". They throw the word around but in reality they're untrained, maybe high school, no college required, no Trade school for many. Then they use those people to perform tedious recalls over and over, and since they don't know the significance of leaving a seat wire harness disconnected , well let's just say, that open circuit to the CAM communication line disrupts the whole ignition system because of the damn power steering. Flawed engineering. I'm in fact a technician now, licensed, accredited, certified, competency and industry standards were a necessity to graduate school. That company makes me want to puke.

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Oh yeah see Mazda technician workshop manual l3c engine for reference to the SWAS steering angle sensor and it's function on engine control. You can't turn it off. The workshop manual for timing procedures be is flawed and directions flawed. The cars have keyless systems and the procedure no for previous generations with some differentparts. Or different drive trains too. Only good Mazda service tech is one who owned or drives a Mazdaspeed cause they know the car better than anyone. My original tech who warrantied my car repeatedly had a Speed6. It blew the motor 3 times and he wasnt racing it. Technically was his GF but he adopted it and almost went mad trying to repair it. Some cars are just lemons and no matter what the brochures try to convince you, oh it tastes good, come try some! Don't take a sip cause that's not lemonade your drinking...

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